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Originally posted by bleednblackngold View PostThis may be old news but Jerry Palm now has us as 11 seed last four in playing in Dayton. Although Jerry is a flopping a$$ clown, I would love to see this bracket come to fruition. I like my chances with Michigan/Dayton/Miami to start the dance."You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."
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I dont get imoressed with 'bracketologists' that update their bracket up to the last minute.
Show me the guy that had it pegged before the season, or even a month or 2 ago.
These guys are just pollsters for sports."When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!
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Originally posted by pinstripers View PostSeth Davis @SethDavisHoops · 7m7 minutes ago
Down to my last crunch! 7 teams for 2 spots: Syracuse, Tulsa, Valpo, Monmouth, Wich St, Vandy, St. Mary's. SDSU is wild card.
Looking way better than 50/50 ;)
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Look who is changing his tune:
@SethDavisHoops: Have to say Monmouth's good wins don't look so good. Notre Dame and USC on a neutral court, Gtown and UCLA on the road. 3 200+ losses hurts.
@SethDavisHoops: I'd say Valpo's road win at Oregon St is better than any of Monmouth's wins.
@SethDavisHoops: I put Syracuse in. So my last spot came down to Valpo and Wichita State.....
@SethDavisHoops: My last spot goes to Wichita State. Have better noncon strength of schedule ranking than Valpo, plus 1 loss 100+ compared to 4. Close call.The Assman
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I get a kick out of the idea that we may be "last four in" and then an 8 seed. Shouldn't you be an 11-13 seed if you are barely squeaking into the dance with the last open spot?
This year will be fun because we have all been forced to deal with the holes in our team but we do still have the talent to make a great run. In other words, if we have a terrible shooting night and lose 50-51 (because the other team can't score either but it doesn't take much to beat us when we shoot 2-24 from 3) in the first round, I will be able to have seen it coming and it will hurt less now. But I still absolutely believe we have a shot at winning several games. My expectations are definitely lowered but not because I don't think we CAN pull it together...and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see WSU really show up. This will be fun.Last edited by Dave Stalwart; March 12, 2016, 11:20 AM.
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Originally posted by ShockerPrez View PostI dont get imoressed with 'bracketologists' that update their bracket up to the last minute.
Show me the guy that had it pegged before the season, or even a month or 2 ago.
These guys are just pollsters for sports.
Not going to happen. Once bracketologists start trying to predidict those things, the value of projections would go out the window. No thanks.
As it is, Jerry Palm's outlook on WSU from early February appears to have been right, but of course he wasn't really right. He was too low on WSU and got lucky that WSU lost some games down the stretch to fall into his ranking. Of course, if he really expected those loses, he would have kept WSU in the same spot all the way up to today. What actually happened is is continued to drop WSU and is still too low on them today. He wasn't right then, and he isn't right now.
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Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View PostOnce again, I didn't agonize over choosing the order of teams like St. Bonaventure vs St. Mary's. The following list could probably be tweaked further, but the point is that WSU is in no danger at this point. 100% sure they are in, 80% sure they avoid Tuesday in Dayton, and probably a 50/50 shot of getting into the 8/9 game. Bid thieves are no longer WSU's concern. Teams like St. Bonaventure and Tulsa losing late last night was exactly what the Shox needed to now feel completely safe. Those teams may or may not get in now, and they provide extra cushion for WSU against any possible bid thieves in the next 24 hours. The only tiny danger going into yesterday was for teams like Tulsa to play well, rise above WSU, and then for the Georgia's of the world to steal WSU's bid. Now, I just don't see a scenario, regardless of how poorly the committee might evaluate WSU, where they aren't included.
As of Saturday morning...
Potential Bid Thieves Without At-Large HopesTeam Still Playing? RPI KenPom Comments St. Joe's Yes 27 45 Probably out of WSU's reach. Root for Dayton to blow them out. USC No 51 48 Lock Oregon St No 34 60 Lock WICHITA ST NO 46 11 LOCK Cincy No 47 31 Lock VCU Yes 41 34 Probably in, but need to beat Davidson today to be a lock UConn Yes 45 29 Probably in, but need to beat Temple today to be a lock Butler No 58 39 Just short of lock status Pitt No 52 44 Just short of lock status South Carolina No 62 51 Probably in San Diego St Yes 32 37 Lose today and may still get a bid, but won't be the Shox they steal from. Wife is Fresno St. grad. Go Dogs! Michigan Yes 54 50 Lose to Purdue today and they are squarely on the bubble St. Bonaventure No 30 79 Squarely on the bubble St. Mary's No 37 33 Squarely on the bubble Vandy No 63 26 Squarely on the bubble ------------- ------------- --Cut Line-- --Cut Line-- ------------- ------------- Temple Yes 59 83 Must beat UConn today or likely headed to NIT Monmouth No 53 67 Slim NCAA chances Syracuse No 70 41 Slim NCAA chances Valpo No 49 36 Very slim NCAA chances Florida No 55 43 Very slim NCAA chances Tulsa No 61 58 Headed to NIT George Washington No 67 78 Headed to NIT Georgia Yes 60 65 Must beat Kentucky today or headed to NIT. May need to win tomorrow too. LSU Yes 91 76 I almost put LSU in the bid thief group. Must beat Texas A&M today and play a close game tomorrow.
AAC – Memphis, Tulane (These 2 teams play each other today, winner will have to beat UConn/Temple tomorrow)
A10 – Davidson (Would have to beat VCU today, then winner of St. Joes/Dayton tomorrow)
Mountain West – Fresno St (Plays SDSU in the championship game today)
Only 3 conferences left where bid thieves could show up. Doubtful more than 1 actually pulls it off.
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