2016 Bracketology

[choida]

Not to beat a dead horse, but on the podcast somone on here linked yesterday for Mike & Mike discussing the selection process with the OU AD made me pause.

At about the 10 minute mark (and I haven't went back and double-checked) he mentions a new metric that the commision developed concerning a "strength of conference schedule"? I didn't like the sound of that. Anybody hear that besides me?

Power five conferences already get the best conference schedules, and hold all the cards in scheduling for non conference, now they want their own metric... Aka another way to weed out " mid majors"... Tired of this bullshit... Just come out and say that you guys are tired of having to compete with smaller schools who do more with less... Maybe if their coaches worked harder, smarter and actually coach then they would be beating us more mid majors... The thing that benefits smaller programs is being able to keep players for four years, I'm not a KU fan, but that tool should get the best talent here can get that's willing to or would stay four years, which is an oxymoron. They just don't wanna give an edge to programs that make less money then them and that have more success..

[WuShock Reaper]

Here is where Joe Lunardi has been tracking the Shockers this week:

March 6th - WSU 7th seed in Oklahoma City versus 10 seed Butler (North Carolina #1 seed in the West Region)
March 7th - WSU 7th seed in Spokane versus 10 seed Butler (North Carolina #1 seed in the West Region)
March 8th - WSU 8th seed in Des Moines versus 9 seed Butler (Kansas #1 seed in the Midwest Region)
March 9th - WSU 8th seed in Brooklyn versus 9 seed Cincinnati (Villanova #1 seed in the East Region)
March 10th - WSU 8th seed in Brooklyn versus 9 seed Saint Joseph's (Villanova #1 seed in the East Region)
March 11th - WSU 8th seed in Des Moines versus 9 seed Butler (Kansas #1 seed in the Midwest Region)

[choida]

Here is where Joe Lunardi has been tracking the Shockers this week:

March 6th - WSU 7th seed in Oklahoma City versus 10 seed Butler (North Carolina #1 seed in the West Region)
March 7th - WSU 7th seed in Spokane versus 10 seed Butler (North Carolina #1 seed in the West Region)
March 8th - WSU 8th seed in Des Moines versus 9 seed Butler (Kansas #1 seed in the Midwest Region)
March 9th - WSU 8th seed in Brooklyn versus 9 seed Cincinnati (Villanova #1 seed in the East Region)
March 10th - WSU 8th seed in Brooklyn versus 9 seed Saint Joseph's (Villanova #1 seed in the East Region)
March 11th - WSU 8th seed in Des Moines versus 9 seed Butler (Kansas #1 seed in the Midwest Region)

They want a "mid major" out that bad... Like that scene from Django Unchained, where Leo has two slaves fight to the death... Disclaimer, i mean nothing racist by this comment, just using it as a comparison.

[AG1219]

Not to beat a dead horse, but on the podcast somone on here linked yesterday for Mike & Mike discussing the selection process with the OU AD made me pause.

At about the 10 minute mark (and I haven't went back and double-checked) he mentions a new metric that the commision developed concerning a "strength of conference schedule"? I didn't like the sound of that. Anybody hear that besides me?

This just refers to conferences that play unbalanced schedules. Mvc plays every team home and away. Some conferences play their division home and away and then the other division just once.

They created a metric a couple of years ago to account for that. For instance look at indiana's big 10 schedule vs say Michigan state.

It is also the same argument some use for ku's dominance in big 12 prior to all the realignment. Ku got to play the north for 10 games and the south only 6 games, when one could argue the south was the better division.

Hope this calms your fears that wsu playing in the mvc hurts them in this metric.

[OregonShocker]

Power five conferences already get the best conference schedules, and hold all the cards in scheduling for non conference, now they want their own metric... Aka another way to weed out " mid majors"... Tired of this bullshit... Just come out and say that you guys are tired of having to compete with smaller schools who do more with less... Maybe if their coaches worked harder, smarter and actually coach then they would be beating us more mid majors... The thing that benefits smaller programs is being able to keep players for four years, I'm not a KU fan, but that tool should get the best talent here can get that's willing to or would stay four years, which is an oxymoron. They just don't wanna give an edge to programs that make less money then them and that have more success..

I think this is close to the truth. Another BIG factor is their ability to market their conference to the sports channels for more money. They want to drum up more than local interest in a, say, Texas Tech vs. TCU match up to better negotiate.That gets diluted if people find interest in a, say,WSU vs. UNI matchup. Follow the money.

[Heinro]

This just refers to conferences that play unbalanced schedules. Mvc plays every team home and away. Some conferences play their division home and away and then the other division just once.

They created a metric a couple of years ago to account for that. For instance look at indiana's big 10 schedule vs say Michigan state.

It is also the same argument some use for ku's dominance in big 12 prior to all the realignment. Ku got to play the north for 10 games and the south only 6 games, when one could argue the south was the better division.

Hope this calms your fears that wsu playing in the mvc hurts them in this metric.

Yes, the strength of conference is not considered for round robin conferences like the MVC. What it checks is unbalanced leagues.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Guys, enough with the garbage criticism of stuff you don't even understand.

@AG1219: did a good job explaning. This isn't even an inter-conference rating. It has absolutely nothing to do with big boys vs mid-majors. It is purely for looking at teams with the same conference.

The whining and complaining about everything being so unfair is insufferable at times. At least get your facts straight before you start.

[Heinro]

Jamar: Temple or UConn tomorrow? Who do we want to lose?

[Shocker Mama]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/gregg-marshall-wichita-state-shockers-turning-into-a-basketball-blueblood-031116

Nice article about HCGM.

[Play Angry]

Credit to Jamar for this week's hand holding. JFC folks, it's almost like we weren't watching this same process obsessively in 2005, 2011 and 2013 with similar stakes.

[shoxlax]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-bas...ueblood-031116

Nice article about HCGM.

Great article, thanks

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Jamar: Temple or UConn tomorrow? Who do we want to lose?

Temple is very possibly out if they lose. Root for UConn to somehow find their legs and win 1 more.

[wusphlash]

Lunardi's latest bracket has us playing St. Joes in the East where Villanova is the number 1 seed. So, we would play in the 8/9 game against a team from the state of Pennsylvania. After winning that game we would play a Catholic institution seeded #1 with a name that ends in "a". Sound familiar?

[choida]

Lunardi's latest bracket has us playing St. Joes in the East where Villanova is the number 1 seed. So, we would play in the 8/9 game against a team from the state of Pennsylvania. After winning that game we would play a Catholic institution seeded #1 with a name that ends in "a". Sound familiar?

Illuminati

[another shocker]

Lunardi's latest bracket has us playing St. Joes in the East where Villanova is the number 1 seed. So, we would play in the 8/9 game against a team from the state of Pennsylvania. After winning that game we would play a Catholic institution seeded #1 with a name that ends in "a". Sound familiar?

no. not really. familiar how? when did that happen before?