2016 Bracketology

[ShockdaWorld]

From bubble discussion to National Champion contender. It can happen.

I wonder what kind of odds I could get if I was in Vegas today.

[Kung Wu]

I wonder what kind of odds I could get if I was in Vegas today.

This would be a good time to do it.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I get a kick out of the idea that we may be "last four in" and then an 8 seed. Shouldn't you be an 11-13 seed if you are barely squeaking into the dance with the last open spot?

The Dayton games for the last 4 in will most likely be 11 seeds. More likely to be 10 than 12. No chance of 13.

Yes, an 8 would be a step up, but not as far as you make it out to be.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I'm convinced those clowns were ripping wsu simply to get clicks. Now that is almost go time, what they should have known last week is finally coming out.

Ben Carson is endorsing Trump. Decent people often simply lack good judgment. I think Seth Davis and Jerry Palm truly believe what they are saying, they just are clearly poor judges of resumes.

[ShockdaWorld]

Ben Carson is endorsing Trump. Decent people often simply lack good judgment. I think Seth Davis and Jerry Palm truly believe what they are saying, they just are clearly poor judges of resumes.

Palm I've always thought was worthless. I've always at least respected Seth's opinion, even earlier this season, he seemed to be pretty positive about WSU. But, when Palm started talking bad about the Shocks around tourney time, Seth started drinking the kool-aid. I have no doubt that it's a CBS thing to downplay the Shocks, even if it is just to make their own bracketologist look good.

[Play Angry]

Seth's always entertaining and usually likable, but only sometimes correct.

The first two make his misfires forgivable. Palm is a computer geek by trade and has the typical charisma to match, so he's mostly just irritating when his expertise is lacking.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

So why is South Carolina so much better off than Vandy or Syracuse? Frankly, I'm not sure why any of them would be in over some of the other teams below/around them.

Syracuse's RPI of 70 and 9-10 conference record are both in "uh oh" territory. Also, both Syracuse and Vandy have 13 losses. That's also approaching "uh oh" territory.

I think South Carolina with 8 losses is just more paletable. Easier schedule? Sure, but 13 losses is just a lot more to digest.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I have no doubt that it's a CBS thing to downplay the Shocks, even if it is just to make their own bracketologist look good.

What does that even mean? If WSU gets in easily, and CBS downplayed WSU all year, how does that make them look good?

[IdahoShocker]

I wonder what kind of odds I could get if I was in Vegas today.

Looks like you can get 35-1 for WSU winning the championship. Interestingly, that is tied for 19th place with Iowa State. So according to Vegas we are still "in this thing".

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

[shoxlax]

What does that even mean? If WSU gets in easily, and CBS downplayed WSU all year, how does that make them look good?

It doesn't and it only shows them once again that Jerry Palm is the VHS tape in a digital world

[shoxlax]

I hope all you twitterers are ready to flood Jerry on Sunday at about 5:30. Should be a fun show to watch. I'm sure he'll spin it well. You don't have to be douchy or anything, but I think some well-derserved crow will be in order after WSU was definitively NIT bound a short 7 days ago.

There's your 2016 Flip-flopper of the Year Award, Jerry. Congrats.

I am relishing the moment more than life itself.

He either needs to change his analysis tools or give up. The bracketology game has passed him by.

[Stickboy46]

I am relishing the moment more than life itself.

He either needs to change his analysis tools or give up. The bracketology game has passed him by.

We moved up 2 spots in his "last 4 in" ranking today. Would not be surprised if we move out of Dayton by selection time

[1972Shocker]

Seth's always entertaining and usually likable, but only sometimes correct.

The first two make his misfires forgivable. Palm is a computer geek by trade and has the typical charisma to match, so he's mostly just irritating when his expertise is lacking.

Is it possible the CBS is attempting to frame what could possibly be the Cinderella story of the year? Frame WSU as lucky to even be in the tournament and then, if the Shocks do wel (which they have a history of in the Fred/Ron eral, play up the Cinderalla aspects to enhance ratings. After all that is the real bottom lone for network analysts. Being right is not necessarily that important to them.

[shoxlax]

No. I will be extremely disappointed if WSU has to beat a fellow 11 seed just to earn the right to play a 6 seed. I'm expecting WSU to be a 9 or 10 and to be watching Tuesday's games on TV.

During a Stage One Rem moment I had watching HGTV I had a dream that we were a 10 and played Texas in Denver.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

@SethDavisHoops: My last spot goes to Wichita State. Have better noncon strength of schedule ranking than Valpo, plus 1 loss 100+ compared to 4. Close call.

Just to illustrate the stupidity of saying WSU and Valpo are "close"...

	WSU	Valpo
RPI	46	49
KenPom	11	36
SOS	105	165
non con SOS	12	53
vs 1-50	1-1	0-1
vs 26-50	0-1	1-0
vs 51-100	3-1	3-1
vs 101-200	8-1	8-4
vs 201+	11-0	12-0

Valpo has 4 bad losses vs WSU's 1 and lacks WSU's elite KenPom rating and elite non-con SOS. Also, without doing the full calculation, I can see from a glance that WSU's scoring margin was higher than Valpo's vs similar competition. Everywhere else Valpo merely ties WSU. That's a big gap. Like, 3-4 seed line type of gap. To say this is close is to show complete incompetence. Seth seems like a nice guy, but he needs to stick to in-game basketball analysis and stop trying to analyze resumes.