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  • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
    I don't know, Kum & Go compels a protected seed as well.
    I'd recommend protecting your seed every time you Kum & Go.
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    • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
      And ZERO non-con road games. They should, and will, be graded down for that, just not enough.
      The adjustment for difficulty on road versus home games is really where kenpom shines over the antiquated RPI.

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      • [QUOTE=ShockingButTrue;640523]
        Originally posted by IdahoShocker View Post
        Quotes from Marshall on the week of waiting, etc.

        [url]http://goshockers.com/news/2016/3/9/mens

        I agree with Coach that anyone with a set of eyes who watches D1 can see The Shocks are a worthy team.

        He also says, "That's why I say that you have to watch our team..." & "They're (N. Iowa) playing very, very well, as everyone can see."

        What makes me nervous about these obvious truths is who's watching the Valley?
        After listening to other interviews, it sounds like the selection committee is. That's all that matters.
        "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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        • Lordy people... the quote brackets aren't rocket science.

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          • Michigan just blew a sizable lead to Northwestern, 60-60 heading to OT.

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            • [QUOTE=ShockingButTrue;640523]
              Originally posted by IdahoShocker View Post
              Quotes from Marshall on the week of waiting, etc.

              [url]http://goshockers.com/news/2016/3/9/mens

              I agree with Coach that anyone with a set of eyes who watches D1 can see The Shocks are a worthy team.

              He also says, "That's why I say that you have to watch our team..." & "They're (N. Iowa) playing very, very well, as everyone can see."

              What makes me nervous about these obvious truths is who's watching the Valley?
              Whose watching the valley you say? The person on the selection committee who is assigned to our conference, that's who.

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              • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
                The adjustment for difficulty on road versus home games is really where kenpom shines over the antiquated RPI.
                I disagree. The RPI accounting for home wins / road losses as 0.6 and road wins / home losses as 1.4 has become a very nice adjustment.

                Look at South Dakota State. 24-7, they play in the Summit League, and they only played 1 top 50 team in the non-con, yet they have an RPI of 34. By scheduling 7 road, 2 neutral, and only 5 home games in the non-con, the RPI is giving their 24-7 record a pretty high rank.

                South Dakota State won the auto bid, but had they needed an at-large, the RPI wouldn't have been their problem. 0 top 50 wins and a KenPom rating of 78 would have been their biggest obstacles.

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                • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                  I disagree. The RPI accounting for home wins / road losses as 0.6 and road wins / home losses as 1.4 has become a very nice adjustment.

                  Look at South Dakota State. 24-7, they play in the Summit League, and they only played 1 top 50 team in the non-con, yet they have an RPI of 34. By scheduling 7 road, 2 neutral, and only 5 home games in the non-con, the RPI is giving their 24-7 record a pretty high rank.
                  Guess my impression was off.

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                  • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
                    Lordy people... the quote brackets aren't rocket science.
                    I just hit the "reply with quote" button, and whatever happens happens.
                    "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                    • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                      OU AD basically said they would look at results of when a player was out and after he was back to compare differences. He said it basically used to break ties. You could make the argument that WSU didn't prove they were unbeatable with Fred.
                      That's an argument on one far side. Saying WSU was 0-3 without Fred and 24-5 with would be the other far side.

                      Somewhere in the middle probably says that given the extreme closeness of two of the games, WSU would have won 1, more likely both of those two and that the game that was not close would have been much closer with Fred and Anton in the game. Either winning 1 or 2 of those 3 games and no one is having this conversation about whether we're in.

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                      • [QUOTE=choida;640535]
                        Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post

                        Whose watching the valley you say? The person on the selection committee who is assigned to our conference, that's who.
                        Just nine more to go then...

                        I think we're in, but people like goatlube, and other not-so-silent voices in the congregation ARE out there. It's a reality.

                        If I have any sense of the jitters, it would be based solely on conference alliance. Nobody cares that Loyola beat Cretin and swept the Panthers. Nor was anyone watching I'm pretty sure.

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                          • Palm is now stating by Selection Sunday he may have WSU in his mock bracket LOL
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                            • Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                              That's an argument on one far side. Saying WSU was 0-3 without Fred and 24-5 with would be the other far side.

                              Somewhere in the middle probably says that given the extreme closeness of two of the games, WSU would have won 1, more likely both of those two and that the game that was not close would have been much closer with Fred and Anton in the game. Either winning 1 or 2 of those 3 games and no one is having this conversation about whether we're in.
                              Exactly! Even the biggest pessimists still have WSU right on the bubble, even if just outside. It doesn't take but a tiny adjustment for injuries (give WSU 1 more win, or even just 1/2 a win) and suddenly WSU is well inside the bubble. The only way to leave WSU out is to both ignore injuries altogether AND to be extremely critical of WSU's resume.

                              Shox are in baby!

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                              • To me...I just can't believe Texas Tech at 9-9 in their conference is believed to be in. Wow. On another note...did Jamar ever do a mock up showing the odds of QT as 1 seed playing the cough-cough #16 seed Casey's should they get in? Palm is now saying Casey's sneaks in as a 16 seed. WTH???
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