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    Holding steady at the #7 seed, but no longer heading east to St. Louie. Now headed south to....

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    • USA Today also has the Shocks as a 7 facing Butler in Spokane.

      “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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      • Originally posted by shocks02 View Post
        Joe Lunardi ‏@ESPNLunardi · 13h13 hours ago
        ..27-Dayton, 28-WICH, 29-STMARY, 30-Texas, 31-NDame, 32-Mich, 33-Utah, 34-UConn, 35-Cal, 36-Fla, 37-Zaga, 38-Colo, 39-TTech, 40-GWash(L4)..

        Shox as Lunardi's last 7 seed as of last night on the S-curve. Teams to root against this weekend; Dayton, Duke, Butler, South Carolina, Pitt, Indiana, Providence and Baylor.
        Now 1st 7 seed. I see us ending in the 5-6 range.


        13-Miami, 14-Prov, 15-OREG, 16-Uk, 17-Lville, 18-Purd (SMU) 19-Baylor, 20-Zona, 21-Dayton, 22-Ind, 23-SoCalif, 24-Duke, 25-WICHITA, 26-NDame

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        • Originally posted by fansince80s View Post
          I see us ending in the 5-6 range.
          Agreed, and I'm still assuming there will be one loss, somewhere. I think undefeated through St. Louis gets the Shox a 3 or 4.

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          • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
            Agreed, and I'm still assuming there will be one loss, somewhere. I think undefeated through St. Louis gets the Shox a 3 or 4.
            Assuming that scenario, wasn't our resume better last year?

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            • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
              Agreed, and I'm still assuming there will be one loss, somewhere. I think undefeated through St. Louis gets the Shox a 3 or 4.
              Hope I am wrong but I don't think the Shockers will be seeded 3 or 4 regardless of their final season record.

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              • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                Assuming that scenario, wasn't our resume better last year?
                I'll be 100% up front and straightforward... I think WSU will get a better seed than their resume, at face value, deserves. I believe the 5 losses will be counted, but not at 100%. Yes, the resume will be less impressive on paper than last year, but the "adjusted resume", once injuries are factored in, will be more impressive.

                I think last year was an anomaly and that resume usually earns a 5 seed. I think this year's adjusted resume could potentially be better, thus my reasoning for thinking something as high as a 3 is possible if things fall just right.

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                • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                  I'll be 100% up front and straightforward... I think WSU will get a better seed than their resume, at face value, deserves. I believe the 5 losses will be counted, but not at 100%. Yes, the resume will be less impressive on paper than last year, but the "adjusted resume", once injuries are factored in, will be more impressive.

                  I think last year was an anomaly and that resume usually earns a 5 seed. I think this year's adjusted resume could potentially be better, thus my reasoning for thinking something as high as a 3 is possible if things fall just right.
                  I haven't looked at the numbers from last year. Possible we will be helped by the giant pile of losses the teams in the T25 have? Seems higher than normal this year, but I could be off.

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                  • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                    I haven't looked at the numbers from last year. Possible we will be helped by the giant pile of losses the teams in the T25 have? Seems higher than normal this year, but I could be off.
                    IMO the fact that no P5 school looks unbeatable this year will help the Shockers seed. Running the table for the rest of the season will put the fear of god in the committee to ensure the Shockers are seeded correctly to protect early exits for a blue blood (especially the Beakers).

                    I think the Beakers will insist the Shockers are placed in a Region that ensures the Beakers can only play the Shockers for the NC, should both teams win out. In fact, this is the scenario I hope plays out in this years tournament.

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                    • Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
                      I think the Beakers will insist the Shockers are placed in a Region that ensures the Beakers can only play the Shockers for the NC, should both teams win out. In fact, this is the scenario I hope plays out in this years tournament.
                      Just like last year?
                      "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                      • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
                        Just like last year?
                        Exactly!

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                        • Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
                          IMO the fact that no P5 school looks unbeatable this year will help the Shockers seed. Running the table for the rest of the season will put the fear of god in the committee to ensure the Shockers are seeded correctly to protect early exits for a blue blood (especially the Beakers).

                          I think the Beakers will insist the Shockers are placed in a Region that ensures the Beakers can only play the Shockers for the NC, should both teams win out. In fact, this is the scenario I hope plays out in this years tournament.
                          Living in Houston, that would be a blast.

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                          • Talk of KU insisting that WSU be placed somewhere because it is what KU wants is conspiracy stuff that I just don't believe in. I don't think the committee members representing UNC-Ashville, conference USA, etc are bowing down to what KU wants, even if KU tried to meddle with the seeding, which I don't think they do. I don't think KU has any real power to say where other teams get set in the bracket.

                            Making a good matchup like WSU vs KU might, maybe, possibly happen on occasion because those games bring ratings and interest. I do think that often, people underestimate the pure coincidental match ups that come merely from trying to keep teams playing in regions close to home.

                            Look at all the match ups that could happen but don't:
                            In 2014, why not have 1&2 WSU&KU in the same region?
                            In 2013, why did WSU get Gonzaga instead of KU as their 1 seed?
                            In 2006, why not shift the seeds just a hair and set up a 6vs3 for WSUvsKU?

                            Every committee is different. Hard to say what you'll get from year to year, but more often than not, I think committee conspiracy theories are just silly.
                            Last edited by Jamar Howard 4 President; January 29, 2016, 12:11 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                              Talk of KU insisting that WSU be placed somewhere because it is what KU wants is conspiracy stuff that I just don't believe in. I don't think the committee members representing UNC-Ashville, conference USA, etc have any reason to listen to what KU wants, even if KU tried to meddle with the seeding, which I don't think they do. I don't think KU has any real power to say where other teams get set in the bracket.

                              Making a good matchup like WSU vs KU might, maybe, possibly happen on occasion because those games bring ratings and interest. I do think that often, people underestimate the pure coincidental match ups that come merely from trying to keep teams playing in regions close to home.
                              I am not a conspiracy theorist but IMO believing the NCAA Committee is not influenced by external forces is naïve thinking. Your statement "Making a good matchup like WSU vs KU" is an excellent example of such an external influence.

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                              • Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
                                I am not a conspiracy theorist but IMO believing the NCAA Committee is not influenced by external forces is naïve thinking. Your statement "Making a good matchup like WSU vs KU" is an excellent example of such an external influence.
                                @Jamar Howard 4 President: did say they may be influenced on occasion due to interesting matchups that draw ratings. However, do you believe they did this matchup because KU or WSU wanted it?

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