Exactly Royal, and that is why I laugh when people simultaneously praise Marshall as a fearless leader and slam Bill Self as a gutless coward.
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Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View PostIf you take one sentence of many paragraphs, you can change the WHOLE meaning.
Here is what he said:
If you look at the whole thing, you see what point he was trying to make. He wasn't saying "If I were the coach at KU or K-State", or if he was in the future. He said "IF I WERE BILL SELF or BRUCE WEBER"
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Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View PostIf you take one sentence of many paragraphs, you can change the WHOLE meaning.
Here is what he said:
If you look at the whole thing, you see what point he was trying to make. He wasn't saying "If I were the coach at KU or K-State", or if he was in the future. He said "IF I WERE BILL SELF or BRUCE WEBER"
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Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View PostExactly Royal, and that is why I laugh when people simultaneously praise Marshall as a fearless leader and slam Bill Self as a gutless coward.
I think all of your RPI and schedule analysis is messing with yo mind. You are seriously over analyzing and fly specking his comment.
Marshall is WSU's coach. Do we believe that he would play anyone, anywhere with a return trip? If yes, then end of discussion.
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Originally posted by RoyalShock View PostI don't think it's hard to understand. However, I don't agree, based on his public comments, he's calling Self and Weber cowards. As a coach at WSU, it would be good for the program to play KU and KSU. But he recognizes that if the table was turned, and he were the coach at KU/KSU, he would not see the same upside for those two programs to play us.
If you change your perspective, your view is likely to change, too.
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Originally posted by ShockTalk View PostDo I think Self is a good coach, yes. Do I think he schedules up, yes, especially compared to most of his blue blood peers. Do I find that Self scheduling like he does and not scheduling WSU perplexing, yes. Do I think that Marshall put in the same situation would do the same, not necessarily. Please tell me just what is so more "nothing to gain, everything to lose" by not scheduling WSU compared to playing Davidson, Oregon St, New Mexico at the Sprint, playing a H/H with Colorado or SDSU?
and Utah next year...Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!
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Originally posted by ShockTalk View PostDo I think Self is a good coach, yes. Do I think he schedules up, yes, especially compared to most of his blue blood peers. Do I find that Self scheduling like he does and not scheduling WSU perplexing, yes. Do I think that Marshall put in the same situation would do the same, not necessarily. Please tell me just what is so more "nothing to gain, everything to lose" by not scheduling WSU compared to playing Davidson, Oregon St, New Mexico at the Sprint, playing a H/H with Colorado or SDSU?
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Originally posted by ABC View PostLaugh away, I guess b/c you still don't get it. How do you see this an inconsistent? As Dr Wu stated, isn't that hard to understand.
I think all of your RPI and schedule analysis is messing with yo mind. You are seriously over analyzing and fly specking his comment.
Marshall is WSU's coach. Do we believe that he would play anyone, anywhere with a return trip? If yes, then end of discussion.
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Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View PostMarshall says "anywhere, anytime"
Marshall says "if at KU, I wouldn't play WSU"
There are 2 possibilities:
Marshall's "anywhere, anytime" stance is based on being at WSU and subject to change if he coached elsewhere.
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He didn't really mean it about not playing WSU as KU's coach and he is a bold faced liar for intentionally misleading people in an attempt to win this "war of public perception" with KU.
I don't think Marshall is a liar as I think option #1 is the case, but explain to me how there is any other option besides these 2.
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Originally posted by jdmee View PostBut I don't think it changes no matter where he coaches, just the options change. I don't think Marshall would play Alcorn State because of his "anywhere, anytime" stance. The problem with KU is they have ~350 different schools they can schedule to play them.Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!
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Originally posted by Dan View PostSimple, in-state perception. As HCGM stated, they don't wanna let the family know that little brother can now beat up big brother.
I believe this is really the point of Marshall's comment: if he were Bill Self, knowing the sort of fan base Self has, he wouldn't want to risk having those fans confronted with the sight of WSU as an equal on the court, much less having taken the upper hand. That would not be good for the either the Self or the KU athletic administration, hence the avoidance.
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Originally posted by ShockTalk View PostDo I think Self is a good coach, yes. Do I think he schedules up, yes, especially compared to most of his blue blood peers. Do I find that Self scheduling like he does and not scheduling WSU perplexing, yes. Do I think that Marshall put in the same situation would do the same, not necessarily. Please tell me just what is so more "nothing to gain, everything to lose" by not scheduling WSU compared to playing Davidson, Oregon St, New Mexico at the Sprint, playing a H/H with Colorado or SDSU?
Self, on the other hand, can schedule who he wants and, more often than not, will be able to play most opponents at home with no return visit--he has that luxury--as do many of the elites: We, at this point do not. I think our continued success will heighten this conflict more, but could turn the tables with others.
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Originally posted by shocksrbest View PostThe problem is Self has not been in Marshall's shoes and doesn't realize the difficulty we have in scheduling better opponents. Marshall will play anyone. With our recent success he has proven we deserve some respect for a home-and-home series.
Self, on the other hand, can schedule who he wants and, more often than not, will be able to play most opponents at home with no return visit--he has that luxury--as do many of the elites: We, at this point do not. I think our continued success will heighten this conflict more, but could turn the tables with others.Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!
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Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post+1
I believe this is really the point of Marshall's comment: if he were Bill Self, knowing the sort of fan base Self has, he wouldn't want to risk having those fans confronted with the sight of WSU as an equal on the court, much less having taken the upper hand. That would not be good for the either the Self or the KU athletic administration, hence the avoidance.Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!
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HCGM can probably play whoever he wants, just not under the terms he wants. I for one, wouldn't mind one buy game a year if it were against a perennial powerhouse (UK, Duke, UNC, etc.). It would be a good test for our team, I'd like our chances to walk out with a win, and would be good exposure with the media. It would be interesting to see which teams would actually put their money where their mouth is.
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