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  • #76
    The thought of WSU going undefeated and earning a #1 seed gives me goosebumps. I dont care what people are or will be saying, I will take it any day.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
      lol at anyone acting like going undefeated would be a net negative.

      We'd get more pub in the 2013-14 regular season than all regular seasons combined in program history. We'd finish ranked #1. The fanbase would swell and donations would pour in. We would be the most attractive we have ever been to any potential conference suitors.

      Some extra pressure? Sure. These kids and this coach showed last March that they handle pressure pretty well though.

      I can tell you with 100% certainty whether Gregg Marshall would rather be 34-0 and a 1 seed in March vs. 32-2 and a 3 seed.

      I can tell you with certainty that HCGM said talking about going undefeated is setting the team up for failure.

      So stop talking about it and do what coach, and by extension, the team is doing. Focus on winning the next game, and after that game is over, focus on winning the next one.
      Last edited by jocoshock; December 30, 2013, 08:36 AM.
      Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
        I can tell you with certainty that HCGM said talking about going undefeated is setting the team up for failure.

        So stop talking about it and do what coach, and by extension, the team is doing. Focus on winning the next game, and after that game is over, focus on winning the next one.
        Wow. Are we out there playing the game or fans posting on an internet message board?

        Seriously, let's get a grip.
        Deuces Valley.
        ... No really, deuces.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
          I can tell you with certainty that HCGM said talking about going undefeated is setting the team up for failure.

          So stop talking about it and do what coach, and by extension, the team is doing. Focus on winning the next game, and after that game is over, focus on winning the next one.
          You should probably stay away from the Internet until we lose then. For that matter, you better not watch Sportscenter, College Hoops Night, or any live broadcasts of college basketball games. Because it is going to continue to be talked about.

          And unlike you, most of us enjoy the free publicity for the program when it happens.

          This could be the best regular season in program history. Cheer confidently. Embrace greatness and all the possibilities that come with it instead of pretending that whatever comes from your decrepit fingers on a keyboard is somehow channeled by the young men wearing the Shocker uniform.

          This is the BEST time to be a Shocker. Enjoy it.

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          • #80
            Graduation day os the best day to be a Shocker. Seeing these young men complete thier education is what matters more than an undefeated season.

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            • #81
              Before the season started, what odds would you have given for an undefeated non con. I would assume most would say pretty low. We beat those odds :-)

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
                You should probably stay away from the Internet until we lose then. For that matter, you better not watch Sportscenter, College Hoops Night, or any live broadcasts of college basketball games. Because it is going to continue to be talked about.

                And unlike you, most of us enjoy the free publicity for the program when it happens.

                This could be the best regular season in program history. Cheer confidently. Embrace greatness and all the possibilities that come with it instead of pretending that whatever comes from your decrepit fingers on a keyboard is somehow channeled by the young men wearing the Shocker uniform.

                This is the BEST time to be a Shocker. Enjoy it.
                Those are Head Coach Gregg Marshall's words. Not mine. Those thoughts are not channeled from me. They are channeled from the coach, and if you bothered to listen to his post game comments on Cox last night you would know that. Put down the ecstacy laced kool-aid and try to enjoy the season one game at a time, as it is played. Like the coach and players plan to.

                I could give you advice that you should probably pre-pay for a psychiatrist and anti-depressants, because I could speculate on the ShockerNet posters that will melt down in the event we lose a game or take an early exit in the tourney. They will cry and whine, and look for someone to blame (the players, the coaches, the media, the refs) for our our loss and/or early exit. You will have set yourself up for failure in addition to the team.

                If you believe that anything less than an undefeated season constitutes failure or settling for failure, I would suggest you schedule those appointments and get those prescriptions now, not later.

                It it actually happens, I will enjoy it - when it happens. As far as the publicity that goes with it, it will pale in comparison to the publicity that we would get IF/When we acquire some more banners and trophies for a deep run in the tourney. And even if we do go undefeated, there is a noticeable contingent of ShockerNet posters that will not enjoy the positive publicity, but seek out and obsess over the negative comments of the outliers (and it will come) that it doesn't mean as much because of our weak schedule.

                I will take it one game at a time and listen to our coach.
                Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
                  Wow. Are we out there playing the game or fans posting on an internet message board?

                  Seriously, let's get a grip.
                  You're right. I forgot that Internet message boards are where people can indulge themselves in their delusions... my bad...
                  Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                  • #84
                    Dear straw man artist,

                    Please point me to a post saying that anything short of an undefeated season is failure. You cannot, because nobody has said it. Those are simply your own fears that you are projecting onto this board.



                    You are a good poster more often than not, but are being an old, scared woman here. You also picked this fight for some weird reason and now can't take it when someone responds in kind. The things posted on an Internet message board do not effect our team's performance- I read HCGM's comments and they related to his own pre-game video speech, not ShockerNet posts. Move on and avoid these topics if they bother you so much.

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                    • #85
                      Joco, you're starting to lose it. Stop being so damn scared of success, and the baggage that comes along with it.
                      Deuces Valley.
                      ... No really, deuces.
                      ________________
                      "Enjoy the ride."

                      - a smart man

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
                        Joco, you're starting to lose it. Stop being so damn scared of success, and the baggage that comes along with it.
                        Success is not defined by perfection. Understand that.
                        Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                        • #87
                          FWIW...

                          "What he said
                          Marshall wanted to clear up his words on a video show on the scoreboard during last week’s game against North Carolina Central. WSU’s marketing department films his pre-game talk to the team. In the clip, he appeared to talk about playing for a undefeated season.
                          If you’re thinking that no coach in his right mind goes there, you’re probably right. While that’s what you heard, that’s not what Marshall said. What wasn’t shown is that he continued on to say “at Christmas.” Marshall said that while he wants to win the next game and then the next and so on, he isn’t so presumptuous to talk to his team about an unbeaten season. He wanted the Shockers to go home for the holiday unbeaten and wasn’t thinking into the future.“Gregg did not say we’re shooting for an unbeaten season,” WSU associate athletic director John Brewer said. “Marketing produces these all-access videos each game and made an error in the final cut of this specific video. We have, in fact, received positive feedback from fans and coaches regarding these fully edited clips.”"


                          "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                          • #88
                            The fact that it will be national news if or when we lose, brings a smile to my face.

                            I'm enjoying the ride!
                            "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
                            -John Wooden

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
                              Dear straw man artist,

                              Please point me to a post saying that anything short of an undefeated season is failure. You cannot, because nobody has said it. Those are simply your own fears that you are projecting onto this board.



                              You are a good poster more often than not, but are being an old, scared woman here. You also picked this fight for some weird reason and now can't take it when someone responds in kind. The things posted on an Internet message board do not effect our team's performance- I read HCGM's comments and they related to his own pre-game video speech, not ShockerNet posts. Move on and avoid these topics if they bother you so much.
                              I wasn't picking a fight. My original response was stating what HCGM said on TV last night in direct response to a question about going undefeated for the season. It was not his comments related to any articles. It was a post that a couple of people took exception to and I responded to those taking exception. We are entitled to our opinions...

                              And I will stick around and express my opinions just as you do, thank you very much.
                              Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
                                I wasn't picking a fight. My original response was stating what HCGM said on TV last night in direct response to a question about going undefeated for the season. It was not his comments related to any articles. It was a post that a couple of people took exception to and I responded to those taking exception. We are entitled to our opinions...

                                And I will stick around and express my opinions just as you do, thank you very much.
                                In direct response to what question, exactly? You attacked me for stating that I very much would like to see us go undefeated, then put words in HCGM's mouth by pretending he said that any talk, by anyone, at any time, of going undefeated sets the team up for failure. You then emphatically told me not to talk about it again. I missed the part where anyone asked you anything.

                                Leave the wet blanket act for fans of our competitors. This is a site for WSU fans. We don't need someone to rain on our parade whenever a fan shows enthusiasm or excitement about the greatness of this season's squad.

                                I will leave it at that and let you have the last word if you want it. This season is just too much darned fun to spend time fearing success, high rankings, and being a centerpiece in the national hoops conversation 24/7. I am loving it.

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