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  • #61
    Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio View Post
    Unexplained random events
    This is an engineers perspective. Everyone else's perspective "S**t happens"

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    • #62
      As a "non-bcs" school, it is a little far fetched to think that WSU could ever win the national championship . But most of us fans on here believe we can(even before our final 4 run last year).

      Each year has brought new hope that this would be the year.

      Now that WSU has been to the final 4 and had a very good chance of winning it all and we find our team as one of the last 9 teams in the country to be undefeated, why not shoot for the stars again? WSU will be wearing a target on it's back all season. But what the opponents don't realize is Marshall will have his team seeing their opponents with a target on their back!

      One opponent at a time, one half at a time. Lets do this!!!
      Marge: The plant called and said that if you don't come in tomorrow, don't bother coming in Monday.
      Homer: WOOHOO! Four day weekend.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
        No, you actually don't get it but that's ok.
        No, actually I do get it. You think WSU being undefeated during post season play will be too much pressure on them and prefer them not having that monkey on their back when they get there. In other words, you'd prefer WSU to lose before March? Did I miss anything? If I did, please enlighten us.
        Deuces Valley.
        ... No really, deuces.
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        "Enjoy the ride."

        - a smart man

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
          No, actually I do get it. You think WSU being undefeated during post season play will be too much pressure on them and prefer them not having that monkey on their back when they get there. In other words, you'd prefer WSU to lose before March? Did I miss anything? If I did, please enlighten us.
          Close enough. Most on this board, including you, expect 1-4 losses. Non of us want that, including me, but it is more than likely going to happen and the pressure will be less on WSU going into the dance if the national media aren't tearing us down because of it.

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          • #65
            stop the madness

            pretty please

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            • #66
              Our RPI/SoS has been dropping pretty steadily. Our probability of going undefeated has dropped a whole percent just by waiting a week to play a game.

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              • #67
                lol at anyone acting like going undefeated would be a net negative.

                We'd get more pub in the 2013-14 regular season than all regular seasons combined in program history. We'd finish ranked #1. The fanbase would swell and donations would pour in. We would be the most attractive we have ever been to any potential conference suitors.

                Some extra pressure? Sure. These kids and this coach showed last March that they handle pressure pretty well though.



                I can tell you with 100% certainty whether Gregg Marshall would rather be 34-0 and a 1 seed in March vs. 32-2 and a 3 seed.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by AndShock View Post
                  Our RPI/SoS has been dropping pretty steadily. Our probability of going undefeated has dropped a whole percent just by waiting a week to play a game.
                  Great example of how the objective stats are not able to account for the subjective.

                  Common sense says nothing has changed in one week as to the Shocks chances to go undefeated.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ABC View Post
                    stop the madness

                    pretty please
                    Groundhog Day
                    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                    • #70
                      I'll be very pleased just to be undefeated at 5 pm today and plan to enjoy this moment
                      "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by ABC View Post
                        Great example of how the objective stats are not able to account for the subjective.

                        Common sense says nothing has changed in one week as to the Shocks chances to go undefeated.
                        Nothing has changed in our chances, but predictions are a game of incomplete information and what has changed is that more data has clarified what the chances look like.

                        The earlier data skewed unduly positive in how good our wins were (or seemed to have skewed). That has been adjusted with the new data points of our opponents losing.

                        Valley wins might have further reduced our chances by clarifying the other half of our incomplete knowledge--how good are our remaining opponents but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the main cause of the movement.
                        Shocker Nation, NYC

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                        • #72
                          The number of teams that started the New Year undefeated:

                          2014 - 8
                          2013 - 3
                          2012 - 4
                          2011 - 7
                          2010 - 4
                          2009 - 3
                          2008 - 6
                          2007 - 3
                          2006 - 7
                          2005 - 4
                          2004 - 7
                          2003 - 3

                          Average per season = 4.92

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                          • #73
                            If you came to me and said "Rosewood, the Shox will lose one game in the regular season. Do you want it at home or away?" I think I'd rather have it at home even though I'd be paying to watch it. The thought of tens of students storming the court at Evansville gives me heartburn.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Rosewood View Post
                              If you came to me and said "Rosewood, the Shox will lose one game in the regular season. Do you want it at home or away?" I think I'd rather have it at home even though I'd be paying to watch it. The thought of tens of students storming the court at Evansville gives me heartburn.
                              Wait, doesn't the RPI now penalize you more for a home loss than for an away loss? I'd rather go by the numbers than worry about what a few students in Evansville, Indiana are doing on some crappy February night.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Rosewood View Post
                                If you came to me and said "Rosewood, the Shox will lose one game in the regular season. Do you want it at home or away?" I think I'd rather have it at home even though I'd be paying to watch it. The thought of tens of students storming the court at Evansville gives me heartburn.
                                haha "tens of students"!! love it. suck it valley.

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