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Originally posted by Shox21 View PostI am not a CU fan in any way nor will I ever be, however, some of you guys seem to think that Doug is the only player on that team and that the whole team is going to fall apart next year without him. CU has 12 other scholarship players as well as walk-ons, just like all other D1 programs. You don't think Coach McDermott knew that his son would be leaving one day (however I do acknowledge that Gibbs isn't ever going to leave). Coach McD has been recruiting the last several years with this inevitability in mind. CU will not be in the basement of the Big East -- they may not win it, but I just don't see them in the very bottom. It may take them a few years (or not) but I do think you will see CU very successful in their new league. Given the chance, we would all like to be in their shoes.
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Consider that CU's three best players from the last two years are a coach's son and two D1 transfers (Gibbs, Echenique), has he really done much from a recruiting standpoint? I'm not certain but I think Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits who honored their LOIs.
From what I can tell, they only have three decent players who 2G McD recruited traditionally - Chatman, Artino and the guard Brooks, who must have been a juco. Three decent-to-good players in three classes. All three of those will be seniors next year. I don't know who they've signed out of the 2014 class, but I'm not seeing happy days in Omaha in the future, unless you're talking about UNO.
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Originally posted by Cdizzle View PostThis just isn't true. They are losing McD, Gibbs, Wragge, and Manigat. CoachMcD has been filling the roster with average talent to below average talent, and then not developing any of the players. If he gave a crap about them not being terrible next year, he wouldn't be playing his son for 37 minutes in 30-point blowouts.
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Originally posted by RoyalShock View PostConsider that CU's three best players from the last two years are a coach's son and two D1 transfers (Gibbs, Echenique), has he really done much from a recruiting standpoint? I'm not certain but I think Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits who honored their LOIs.
From what I can tell, they only have three decent players who 2G McD recruited traditionally - Chatman, Artino and the guard Brooks, who must have been a juco. Three decent-to-good players in three classes. All three of those will be seniors next year. I don't know who they've signed out of the 2014 class, but I'm not seeing happy days in Omaha in the future, unless you're talking about UNO.
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Originally posted by shox1989 View PostIt appears he cares more about McD looking good for the media and the NBA scouts then he does about the future of his team. Maybe he plans on moving on soon."I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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Originally posted by Shox21 View PostI am not a CU fan in any way nor will I ever be, however, some of you guys seem to think that Doug is the only player on that team and that the whole team is going to fall apart next year without him. CU has 12 other scholarship players as well as walk-ons, just like all other D1 programs. You don't think Coach McDermott knew that his son would be leaving one day (however I do acknowledge that Gibbs isn't ever going to leave). Coach McD has been recruiting the last several years with this inevitability in mind. CU will not be in the basement of the Big East -- they may not win it, but I just don't see them in the very bottom. It may take them a few years (or not) but I do think you will see CU very successful in their new league. Given the chance, we would all like to be in their shoes.
I'm going to guess this rationale is being used by most for their contention that CU will be in serious trouble when he's gone, and would be in serious trouble today if he did not hang around for his senior year.
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Originally posted by RoyalShock View PostConsider that CU's three best players from the last two years are a coach's son and two D1 transfers (Gibbs, Echenique), has he really done much from a recruiting standpoint? I'm not certain but I think Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits who honored their LOIs.
From what I can tell, they only have three decent players who 2G McD recruited traditionally - Chatman, Artino and the guard Brooks, who must have been a juco. Three decent-to-good players in three classes. All three of those will be seniors next year. I don't know who they've signed out of the 2014 class, but I'm not seeing happy days in Omaha in the future, unless you're talking about UNO.
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Hold on.
I just figured this whole thing out for all of you.
BigD only wants what is best for Creighton, so he is going to leave the cupboard bare and bolt. He learned that from Wichita State. Its a very nice thing to do for a school because it allows them to go out and hire a Gregg Marshall. There is no way BigD can really recruit and sustain any long term success "at CU's level" which is mid-major and in a low end conference. Now that the dog has had its day, he will move up to a more prominent job in a stronger conference like Illinois State after next seasons .500 season at CU...just before the lack of development and recruiting really hits the fan and right after the rest of the roster at Illinois State has gone to jail and the fans give up on Muller.
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