Wichita State media love thread

[Cdizzle]

I am not a CU fan in any way nor will I ever be, however, some of you guys seem to think that Doug is the only player on that team and that the whole team is going to fall apart next year without him. CU has 12 other scholarship players as well as walk-ons, just like all other D1 programs. You don't think Coach McDermott knew that his son would be leaving one day (however I do acknowledge that Gibbs isn't ever going to leave). Coach McD has been recruiting the last several years with this inevitability in mind. CU will not be in the basement of the Big East -- they may not win it, but I just don't see them in the very bottom. It may take them a few years (or not) but I do think you will see CU very successful in their new league. Given the chance, we would all like to be in their shoes.

This just isn't true. They are losing McD, Gibbs, Wragge, and Manigat. CoachMcD has been filling the roster with average talent to below average talent, and then not developing any of the players. If he gave a crap about them not being terrible next year, he wouldn't be playing his son for 37 minutes in 30-point blowouts.

[pie n eye]

Nope. I like the shoes we're wearing. I wouldn't trade them for any other kicks, especially not Creightons. Those teams that jumped ship from the A-10 made an even bigger mistake than CU.

[ShockerEngr]

I am not a CU fan in any way nor will I ever be, however, some of you guys seem to think that Doug is the only player on that team and that the whole team is going to fall apart next year without him. CU has 12 other scholarship players as well as walk-ons, just like all other D1 programs. You don't think Coach McDermott knew that his son would be leaving one day (however I do acknowledge that Gibbs isn't ever going to leave). Coach McD has been recruiting the last several years with this inevitability in mind. CU will not be in the basement of the Big East -- they may not win it, but I just don't see them in the very bottom. It may take them a few years (or not) but I do think you will see CU very successful in their new league. Given the chance, we would all like to be in their shoes.

While true that demises are often overblown - I struggle a bit to see where CU's minutes are going to go if Gibbs ever retires and Dougie moves on. If they're there, Coach McD isn't playing them - even in blowouts.

[RoyalShock]

Consider that CU's three best players from the last two years are a coach's son and two D1 transfers (Gibbs, Echenique), has he really done much from a recruiting standpoint? I'm not certain but I think Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits who honored their LOIs.

From what I can tell, they only have three decent players who 2G McD recruited traditionally - Chatman, Artino and the guard Brooks, who must have been a juco. Three decent-to-good players in three classes. All three of those will be seniors next year. I don't know who they've signed out of the 2014 class, but I'm not seeing happy days in Omaha in the future, unless you're talking about UNO.

[shox1989]

This just isn't true. They are losing McD, Gibbs, Wragge, and Manigat. CoachMcD has been filling the roster with average talent to below average talent, and then not developing any of the players. If he gave a crap about them not being terrible next year, he wouldn't be playing his son for 37 minutes in 30-point blowouts.

It appears he cares more about McD looking good for the media and the NBA scouts then he does about the future of his team. Maybe he plans on moving on soon.

[Cdizzle]

It appears he cares more about McD looking good for the media and the NBA scouts then he does about the future of his team. Maybe he plans on moving on soon.

Not sure who would want him. I don't think he has any more sons.

[ShockerEngr]

Not sure who would want him. I don't think he has any more sons.

Maybe he's looking to go the NBA manager route

[Dave Stalwart]

Maybe he is going to come back and coach in the valley now that he has seen the landscape in the big east.

Pad LittleD's stats all year to get the best NBA stock possible, graduate out the entire team, take the LOLoyola job.

[RoyalShock]

Consider that CU's three best players from the last two years are a coach's son and two D1 transfers (Gibbs, Echenique), has he really done much from a recruiting standpoint? I'm not certain but I think Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits who honored their LOIs.

From what I can tell, they only have three decent players who 2G McD recruited traditionally - Chatman, Artino and the guard Brooks, who must have been a juco. Three decent-to-good players in three classes. All three of those will be seniors next year. I don't know who they've signed out of the 2014 class, but I'm not seeing happy days in Omaha in the future, unless you're talking about UNO.

Google confirms Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits.

[im4wsu]

It appears he cares more about McD looking good for the media and the NBA scouts then he does about the future of his team. Maybe he plans on moving on soon.

That may be his bet bet as a guaranteed retirement benefit, having Son get rich.

[Dan]

Maybe Greg can get a job as head of Doug's posse when Doug moves on to the NBA. Gibb's can be the assistant to Greg.

[SHOCKvalue]

I am not a CU fan in any way nor will I ever be, however, some of you guys seem to think that Doug is the only player on that team and that the whole team is going to fall apart next year without him. CU has 12 other scholarship players as well as walk-ons, just like all other D1 programs. You don't think Coach McDermott knew that his son would be leaving one day (however I do acknowledge that Gibbs isn't ever going to leave). Coach McD has been recruiting the last several years with this inevitability in mind. CU will not be in the basement of the Big East -- they may not win it, but I just don't see them in the very bottom. It may take them a few years (or not) but I do think you will see CU very successful in their new league. Given the chance, we would all like to be in their shoes.

He's averaging 25 points a game. That's not normal. If you omit his numbers from CU's season and plug in something more reasonable for a decent program's top scorer - let's say 15 PPG average - then CU suddenly goes from 7-2 this season, to 5-4 (as of today's results). This could be applied to prior seasons as well when he has been a serious scoring threat.

I'm going to guess this rationale is being used by most for their contention that CU will be in serious trouble when he's gone, and would be in serious trouble today if he did not hang around for his senior year.

[Mr. Obvious]

Consider that CU's three best players from the last two years are a coach's son and two D1 transfers (Gibbs, Echenique), has he really done much from a recruiting standpoint? I'm not certain but I think Wragge and Manigat were Altman recruits who honored their LOIs.

From what I can tell, they only have three decent players who 2G McD recruited traditionally - Chatman, Artino and the guard Brooks, who must have been a juco. Three decent-to-good players in three classes. All three of those will be seniors next year. I don't know who they've signed out of the 2014 class, but I'm not seeing happy days in Omaha in the future, unless you're talking about UNO.

I've always admired their program. McDermott's are a class act. Looking at the recruiting sites, appears he has gotten 2 of his highest profile recruits in his tenure.

[Dave Stalwart]

Hold on.

I just figured this whole thing out for all of you.

BigD only wants what is best for Creighton, so he is going to leave the cupboard bare and bolt. He learned that from Wichita State. Its a very nice thing to do for a school because it allows them to go out and hire a Gregg Marshall. There is no way BigD can really recruit and sustain any long term success "at CU's level" which is mid-major and in a low end conference. Now that the dog has had its day, he will move up to a more prominent job in a stronger conference like Illinois State after next seasons .500 season at CU...just before the lack of development and recruiting really hits the fan and right after the rest of the roster at Illinois State has gone to jail and the fans give up on Muller.

[ShockTalk]

I've always admired their program. McDermott's are a class act. Looking at the recruiting sites, appears he has gotten 2 of his highest profile recruits in his tenure.

Obvious isn't so obvious here. They are?