If HCGM has faith in him to put him in the game, then he will be fine. Like was mentioned earlier, not every one is all-valley. Jake most likely won't be. He will do what he needs to do to help the team and all will be fine.
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To me jake white is a step slow and looks like he has taken a step back on a team that is the most athletic WSU team in 30 years.
Jake white in his current form is good enough to start on an awful lot of teams, just not an 18-2, 20th ranked team.
I think he is having a hard time finding a role because this team doesn't need a stretch 4 out of him. I think he wanted to be that but he is adjusting to a new role.
I would like to see how he could do as a textbook, rebounding, back to the basket PF/center with mid range shot like Stutz/Durley. They have similar athleticism. I am not the smartest basketball guy by any means, but it was a thought. He already rebounds like a poor mans Hall so I think he is a pretty big asset off the bench. There has to be a way he fits in.
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Jake White is perfectly effective in his niche, which is rebounding and finding easy buckets (seriously, how does get so many good looks down low?) I can live with the 3PT shooting just because it is something than can be turned off. However, he really does stick out on the defensive end. See last night, when Early went to the bench with two fouls in the first and our native born lad on the wrong team started just scorching Jake (he went from something like 2 PTs to about 16 in what felt like a flash).
Bottom line, he is fine when he focused on what he is good at, but quicker opponents seem to get by him way too often on defense.
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Not great matchups on the defensive end for Jake against teams like MSU and SIU that are essentially playing 4 and sometimes 5 guard offenses. He is fine against many of the typical Valley 4 or 5 position players like the Kirk kid from MSU, etc. He certainly is not capable of guarding the 3 position. Unfortunately, a lot of Valley teams have 3's playing the 4 at times. It might be helpful if Cle did not get into so much foul trouble and 3G could pick his spots when to use Jake a little more flexibly.
Jake is and will be a solid role player and gives great effort on the boards. He may yet develop an adequate perimeter game but right now it isn't happening. Seems like I remember last year that Jake had a fairly effecitve step back or fade away shot from 8 to 12 feet out on the baseline, but I'm not sure I remember him taking one of those this year. Not sure if he just hasn't worked on it or if he just hasn't had the opportunities to use it. That's the kind of shot I think he needs to develop. Who was it, Jack Sikma (I think) made a nice living with that step back baseline shot against much more athletic defenders.
I like Jake. I know he will keep working to get better and I hope that will pay of for the young man at some point.
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Hmmm I seem to remember this other kid , was thin , weak , and really struggled his first two yrs then made "some" improvement between So. and Jr. yr , was ragged as FIFI for bein a pushover still in his Jr. yr. and then what was it ??? OH YEAH took us to the sweet 16 his Sr. yr .
Sometimes posters on this board baffle me with "their" brilliance when it comes to accessing talent. Think I will leave that to the Coach and his staff.From the road I listen (Tune In radio) at home I watch ( season Ticks )
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Originally posted by CBB_Fan View PostJake White is perfectly effective in his niche, which is rebounding and finding easy buckets (seriously, how does get so many good looks down low?) I can live with the 3PT shooting just because it is something than can be turned off. However, he really does stick out on the defensive end. See last night, when Early went to the bench with two fouls in the first and our native born lad on the wrong team started just scorching Jake (he went from something like 2 PTs to about 16 in what felt like a flash).
Bottom line, he is fine when he focused on what he is good at, but quicker opponents seem to get by him way too often on defense.
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Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View PostHmmm I seem to remember this other kid , was thin , weak , and really struggled his first two yrs then made "some" improvement between So. and Jr. yr , was ragged as FIFI for bein a pushover still in his Jr. yr. and then what was it ??? OH YEAH took us to the sweet 16 his Sr. yr .
Sometimes posters on this board baffle me with "their" brilliance when it comes to accessing talent. Think I will leave that to the Coach and his staff.
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A lot of Jakes problems will be solved and more by getting stronger and quicker by hitting the gym.
He's a sophomore role player who has a great nose for rebounding and likes to mix it up on the board. I think he's filling that role quite well and he's only going to get better.
Count me as a Jake White fan. I'm glad he's on the team and I appreciate what he brings to the table.
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Originally posted by pie n eye View PostA lot of Jakes problems will be solved and more by getting stronger and quicker by hitting the gym.
He's a sophomore role player who has a great nose for rebounding and likes to mix it up on the board. I think he's filling that role quite well and he's only going to get better.
Count me as a Jake White fan. I'm glad he's on the team and I appreciate what he brings to the table.
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View PostI didn't know Jake was a 6'10" center with excellent mid-range shooting touch?!? I will indeed give him more time to develop before I offer further criticism!!!!11111
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and P M 6-10 250lb C getting avg. 7.4 pts in 20.2 min and 4.7 reb
per espn stats seem faily comparable So I guess you could say our 6-8 forward is as good as our 6-10 Center WAS don't forget
Miller was a 5th yr senior to become the STUD he becameFrom the road I listen (Tune In radio) at home I watch ( season Ticks )
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Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View PostYour right we shouldn't compare the two ,, but if we did J W 6-8 232lb F getting avg. 3.7 pts in 12 min and 3.3 reb.
and P M 6-10 250lb C getting avg. 7.4 pts in 20.2 min and 4.7 reb
per espn stats seem faily comparable So I guess you could say our 6-8 forward is as good as our 6-10 Center WAS don't forget
Miller was a 5th yr senior to become the STUD he became
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View PostJake isn't 6'8", he is 6'7" and Paul was a highly mobile and athletic 6'10" player heavily recruited by BCS schools. 6'7" players of Jake's (current) caliber are a dime a dozen. It needs to be made very clear to him that when/if he's healthy, he better be ready to rock or..... ship off.
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and I knoe Paul was recruted for baseball ,, but not BasketballFrom the road I listen (Tune In radio) at home I watch ( season Ticks )
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