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  • #31
    If they put him in and then it gets reversed, and then they don't play him anymore after the reversal, do you think there is ANY CHANCE IN FRANCE that the NCAA would try and overrule the court's decision that any players that played in the 14 days have lost a year of eligibility by following the law? HELL NO. The NCAA wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. That would be suicide.

    It's an easy decision to make .. let him play for 14 days. It is risk free.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
      If they put him in and then it gets reversed, and then they don't play him anymore after the reversal, do you think there is ANY CHANCE IN FRANCE that the NCAA would try and overrule the court's decision that any players that played in the 14 days have lost a year of eligibility by following the law? HELL NO. The NCAA wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. That would be suicide.

      It's an easy decision to make .. let him play for 14 days. It is risk free.
      Counter Point .. if the NCAA wins, do you think they are just going to roll over? They know they can't punish the schools. What they can do is deny the waivers the kids would have to submit to get the Eligibility back. The NCAA isn't known for being smart with these things

      So its not really risk free .. will likely come down to if Degray is willing to risk wasting one of his 2 remaining years for 2 games.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Topshock View Post
        If this is not overturned it seems like a very bad thing for college athletics. No restrictions on transfers ever is not good in my opinion. Most NBA players don't have this kind of freedom.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

          Counter Point .. if the NCAA wins, do you think they are just going to roll over? They know they can't punish the schools. What they can do is deny the waivers the kids would have to submit to get the Eligibility back. The NCAA isn't known for being smart with these thing.
          They would be breaking the law if they try to deny eligibility to the multi-year transfers on the grounds they played in the 14 day period, and would be set up for the class action lawsuit of a lifetime.
          Last edited by Kung Wu; December 13, 2023, 05:34 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
            let him play for 14 days. It is risk free.
            Is it? Might it end up counting as a year?

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            • #36
              NCAA clarified .. zero risk now with no chance of losing eligibility

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              • #37
                There's got to be a reason the sports attorney thought it was still a bit murky.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

                  Is it? Might it end up counting as a year?
                  "The NCAA’s decision to grant temporary eligibility restricts the association from punishing players or schools retroactively should Bailey’s order be overturned."

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                  • #39
                    Or not considering the new NCAA clarification.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                      "The NCAA’s decision to grant temporary eligibility restricts the association from punishing players or schools retroactively should Bailey’s order be overturned."

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba...er/ar-AA1lsnBD
                      They clarified that they wouldn't lose eligibility.

                      But to your statement quoted. Losing a year of eligibility wouldn't be a "punishment" because every single student is subject to the rule that if you play 1 second of a real game, you use eligibility for the year. So that isn't a punishment its just a different rule. It would not have been triggered based on them being a 2 time transfer. What they couldn't do is suspend players, or fine schools or vacate wins.

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                      • #41
                        No restrictions at a national level, then contracts at the institutional level with the athlete/employee including a non-compete clause? or payback for all benefits?

                        How about in season transfers? Confrence restrictions (intra-confrence transfers?)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
                          The other side of this is, if the government is going to basically tell the NCAA they can't enforce their rules, say hello to players transferring every year with no penalties.
                          Every year? We’re trending to be able to transfer and play mid-season!!
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                            They clarified that they wouldn't lose eligibility.

                            But to your statement quoted. Losing a year of eligibility wouldn't be a "punishment" because every single student is subject to the rule that if you play 1 second of a real game, you use eligibility for the year. So that isn't a punishment its just a different rule. It would not have been triggered based on them being a 2 time transfer. What they couldn't do is suspend players, or fine schools or vacate wins.
                            The NCAA would NEVER try and argue that forcing this specific class of players to lose a full season of eligibility for following the letter of the law and being allowed to play in this 14 day period is not "punishment". The court wouldn't have it, and the class action would bankrupt the NCAA. That would be "punishment" and this is risk free.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                              There's got to be a reason the sports attorney thought it was still a bit murky.
                              Everything is a bit murky when you ask an attorney.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                                The NCAA would NEVER try and argue that forcing this specific class of players to lose a full season of eligibility for following the letter of the law and being allowed to play in this 14 day period is not "punishment". The court wouldn't have it, and the class action would bankrupt the NCAA. That would be "punishment" and this is risk free.
                                It's been clarified they won't try.

                                To your statement, if we decided to play Yanis Bamba for 1 minute last game, he would use a year of eligibility. The letter of the law says he's eligible to play. The same applies to any player. So I'm not sure how it would be considered "punishment"

                                That said it's a moot point and the NCAA is doing the right thing and just saying it's a freebie two weeks

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