Realignment Carousel Spins Up again (USC and UCLA to Big 10)

[Ashockalypse]

This thread does make me wonder if the virtual dissolution of the NCAA which has actually already occurred basically eliminates schools like Tulsa and even Wichita State with a larger enrollment. Mere membership recognition by a rule enforcement body may have been required for existence. Somebody hand the microphone to Washington State.

[Ashockalypse]

The level of copium in here.

“Maybe we can get Northeast Westsouth Nebraska added for a real powerhouse conference.” It’s going to get worse before it gets better. Several more shakeups coming down the pike with the possibility of WSU getting bounced from the conference in the next decade. If you don’t see this you are willfully blind.

It can’t get worse. College fans are just pretending as it is. There isn’t real competition regardless of a few close games NIL and Transfer is the big sifter. It just takes a little time but you are watching the destruction nevertheless in real time. The fans that remain I’m afraid will have to suspend reality like wrestling fans.

[Ashockalypse]

I see most of the MWC voting to disband (75 percent of the schools) and rebrand the PAC 12 for the power five autonomy. If they vote to disband, there is no exit fee. Your probably right about the AAC exit fee though and no one willing to pony that up.

I agree and if the MWC “rebrands” how desperate and undignified is that? Chasing the torn up flag that is all that is left of the PAC 12. “Oh look, we’re the PAC 12. We’re badass!”

[ShockerLane316]

I agree and if the MWC “rebrands” how desperate and undignified is that? Chasing the torn up flag that is all that is left of the PAC 12. “Oh look, we’re the PAC 12. We’re badass!”

So many schools want that P5 title and that is the only reason I see that happening... even if it's only for a small amount of time before there are just an NFC/AFC type of realignment with the Big Ten and SEC.

TV contracts have absolutely killed college athletics and I cannot stand it.

[Stickboy46]

I see most of the MWC voting to disband (75 percent of the schools) and rebrand the PAC 12 for the power five autonomy. If they vote to disband, there is no exit fee. Your probably right about the AAC exit fee though and no one willing to pony that up.

In order to do that 9 of 11 MWC teams would have to vote for it. So you are still making a conference that is basically the MWC + the P2. That isn't going to get a significant bump over the existing MWC contract.

Also next to zero chance any new form of the PAC retains any of the current "power" benefits such as Autonomy or the current CFP cut. Only benefit to keeping the PAC name right now is the incoming already promised NCAAT and CFP payouts. Once those dry up it will be no different than the AAC or MWC. Except they also have a ton of legal issues tied to the PAC name right now too

[BOBB]

I agree and if the MWC “rebrands” how desperate and undignified is that? Chasing the torn up flag that is all that is left of the PAC 12. “Oh look, we’re the PAC 12. We’re badass!”

Worked for the Holy Roman Empire for a good while.

[WuDrWu]

With everyone gone next year, do OSU and WSU get to decide what to do with the NCAA and CF money due the conference?

Maybe the answer is to play 11 home games (unless someone wants to pay them a fortune to travel) and pocket every last penny from the conference coffers. Adding in the exit fees the other 10 schools are paying, that's got to be close to a new stadium each....am I right?

[Stickboy46]

With everyone gone next year, do OSU and WSU get to decide what to do with the NCAA and CF money due the conference?

Maybe the answer is to play 11 home games (unless someone wants to pay them a fortune to travel) and pocket every last penny from the conference coffers. Adding in the exit fees the other 10 schools are paying, that's got to be close to a new stadium each....am I right?

Yes they get the NCAA and CF for at least 2 years (thats the 2 year grace period to get back to 8 members)

No they don't get exit fees because the TV contract is up so there were no exit fees for the 10 schools to leave.

[MadDog]

So is there any reason the departing Pac12 schools can’t get together and vote to dissolve the conference at the end of the 23-24 school year and equitably split up the money? Not sure why if everyone else is leaving they are so willing to hand everything over to OSU and WSU?

[Ashockalypse]

Worked for the Holy Roman Empire for a good while.

im pretty sure the Holy Roman Empire never rebranded itself as the PAC 12; did it?

[ShockBand]

Is it possible that eventually, maybe sooner rather than later, that the biggest power players in college football start a contraction process of who is in the "in" crowd? How big (or small) could such a breakoff group be? Structured like a minor league NFL, maybe a couple fewer regular season games, but a group of 32 or so? We're going to be on the outside of that process anyway, since we don't have football at all, but I might well have a Cheshire cat grin if in a decade we see a bunch of schools who have invested hundreds of millions of dollars in their programs, only to get tossed out of the top group. For college football, I have no vested interest in any team, I just very casually follow a couple schools due to a player of interest to me. But as has been stated by me and others on here, the NIL and portal has really fractured my interest even in my beloved Shockers. If our teams can hold onto more of the players for more than a year, maybe I will feel a desire to invest more interest. Otherwise, it is just very casual entertainment to me.

[Stickboy46]

So is there any reason the departing Pac12 schools can’t get together and vote to dissolve the conference at the end of the 23-24 school year and equitably split up the money? Not sure why if everyone else is leaving they are so willing to hand everything over to OSU and WSU?

I think if I remember reading right that if the conference is dissolved the payments stop and go back to the NCAA

[1972Shocker]

Pac-12 fans lose their minds as conference is perfect while Big 12 crashes in Week 1

https://sports.yahoo.com/pac-12-fans-lose-minds-135032934.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

Baylor was favored by nearly four touchdowns against Texas State at home. TCU was favored by 20 points against Colorado at home. Texas Tech was favored by two touchdowns over Wyoming on the road. Each of those three Big 12 teams lost outright on Saturday, part of an absolutely miserable day on the field for the Big 12.

Texas struggled for much of the first half against Rice before pulling away in the second half. West Virginia’s offense once again looked bad in a loss to Penn State.

New Big 12 members BYU and Houston looked terrible on offense in sluggish, uncomfortable wins against opponents they should have beaten by larger margins. Neither BYU nor Houston were able to score as many as 18 points (let alone 30 or 35 or 40).

The Big 12 was bad in Week 1 of the college football season. There wasn’t a single notable win from the conference. Oklahoma did, in fairness, look great, but that was against a cupcake opponent, Arkansas State. The Big 12 didn’t score a win over a high-quality team. Not one.

Meanwhile, the Pac-12 did not lose a game this week and has not yet lost a game this season. USC scored 66 points in a 52-point win. Oregon scored 81. Washington absolutely thumped Boise State. Stanford scored an impressive win at Hawaii. Cal scored 58 in a blowout of North Texas. Utah thrashed Florida on Thursday in a high-profile game. Last but certainly not least, Deion Sanders and Colorado stunned TCU, the team which made the national championship game last year.

Pac-12 fans couldn’t really laugh at the Big 12 because their conference is about to die. It’s one of the strangest things we’ve seen in college sports.

[SubGod22]

So is there any reason the departing Pac12 schools can’t get together and vote to dissolve the conference at the end of the 23-24 school year and equitably split up the money? Not sure why if everyone else is leaving they are so willing to hand everything over to OSU and WSU?

There is a reason they can't do that. Once a school has announced their intentions to leave, they lose all voting rights in regards to the conference standing and membership. So at this point, there are only two voting members of the Pac 12.

[Stickboy46]

Army conversations moving along.