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  • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post

    Terrible comparison...UConn is a charter member of the BE
    In today's climate.....that doesn't matter.
    "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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    • Originally posted by shockerfan View Post

      In today's climate.....that doesn't matter.
      Care to explain?

      IMO a public university in flyover country doesn't appeal to a collection of primarily Catholic east coast institutions. Athletics isn't necessarily the be all end all with these institutions. The Catholic/private/east coast mentality is real. It's the reverse of Pac having no interest in Baylor, TCU or BYU.
      Last edited by BostonWu; July 25, 2021, 03:30 PM.

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      • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
        While I understand the fact that the Pac doesn't want to add a religious school, there are a TON of TCU alumni and parents of kids who attend TCU on the west coast and in SoCal in particular.
        The PAC will not add any schools from states that do not toe the political lines. The California schools are prohibited to traveling to any state on the California "Banned Travel List" - that is 17 states including.

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        • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post

          Terrible comparison...UConn is a charter member of the BE
          I don’t deny that.

          My point was, when the BE schools broke off, they were/wanted to be all private. Jesuit universities (Butler being they only exception to the later credential).

          Neither of these apply to UCONN. So, stands to reason, that being Private and/or Jesuit is no longer required for entry.
          The Assman

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          • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

            The PAC will not add any schools from states that do not toe the political lines. The California schools are prohibited to traveling to any state on the California "Banned Travel List" - that is 17 states including.
            I might be wrong, but I think there are only 2 public schools from the PAC12 in the state of California.
            How much clout do they really have?

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            • Originally posted by Veritas View Post

              I might be wrong, but I think there are only 2 public schools from the PAC12 in the state of California.
              How much clout do they really have?
              UCLA has no clout?

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              • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                UCLA has no clout?
                They have some, but the 2 public California schools will not be as influential as you originally stated in your post.

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                • Originally posted by Veritas View Post

                  I might be wrong, but I think there are only 2 public schools from the PAC12 in the state of California.
                  How much clout do they really have?
                  Cal, USC, UCLA

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                  • Originally posted by IndianaShocker View Post

                    Cal, USC, UCLA
                    USC is private.
                    "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                    • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post

                      USC is private.
                      Thanks for the education. Somehow I didn't know that.

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                        • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                          The PAC will not add any schools from states that do not toe the political lines. The California schools are prohibited to traveling to any state on the California "Banned Travel List" - that is 17 states including.
                          Already travel to Utah and AZ.
                          Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                          • Originally posted by Veritas View Post

                            They have some, but the 2 public California schools will not be as influential as you originally stated in your post.
                            It not about clout, it about California law. Those schools cannot travel to 17 states (which Texas is one of them).

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                            • Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                              Already travel to Utah and AZ.
                              Utah and Arizona are not on the list. The 17 states are:

                              1.Texas
                              2.Alabama
                              3. Idaho
                              4. Iowa
                              5. Oklahoma
                              6. South Carolina
                              7. South Dakota
                              8. Kentucky
                              9. North Carolina
                              10. Kansas
                              11. Mississippi
                              12. Tennessee
                              13. Florida
                              14. Montana
                              15. Arkansas
                              16. West Virginia
                              17. North Dakota

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                              • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                                It not about clout, it about California law. Those schools cannot travel to 17 states (which Texas is one of them).
                                Curious why then did you bring up UCLA clout?

                                Based on the California exclusion law you mention and factoring in the current environment of conference realignment strategy, I don’t believe that 2 public PAC12 colleges in California will have the clout or influence to dictate the final exclusion of any school the PAC12 wishes to invite. Perhaps they can, but I imagine the “law” could quickly be amended to take care of that little wrinkle.

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