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  • WSU made it in this year as the second worst NET team to ever make the tourney. That's power team treatment. Does anyone in their right mind think we make it in as a 72 NET from the MVC?

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    • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
      WSU made it in this year as the second worst NET team to ever make the tourney. That's power team treatment. Does anyone in their right mind think we make it in as a 72 NET from the MVC?
      No... the problem is the 72 Net.

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      • Originally posted by proshox View Post

        No... the problem is the 72 Net.
        I commend you for getting cozy and making this gigantic hole you've dug yourself your home.

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        • When you say “elite basketball” it really boils down to getting a couple potential NBA players on the team. We can get back there. We were “elite” with Fred, Cle and Ron. We were good but not elite with Landry, Shaq, Reaves, etc. Those were good teams whether they would’ve been the MVC or AAC.

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          • Originally posted by Dan View Post
            When you say “elite basketball” it really boils down to getting a couple potential NBA players on the team. We can get back there. We were “elite” with Fred, Cle and Ron. We were good but not elite with Landry, Shaq, Reaves, etc. Those were good teams whether they would’ve been the MVC or AAC.
            Yeah! Because there’s no way Tyson and Ricky could ever make it to the NBA!
            People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

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            • I know there's a lot of talk about Jenkins' potential. We haven't seen much of him and I obviously don't know his personality, but outside of The Process, I'm not sure I've seen such negative body language.

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              • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                WSU made it in this year as the second worst NET team to ever make the tourney. That's power team treatment. Does anyone in their right mind think we make it in as a 72 NET from the MVC?
                Hell no. No one in their right mind thinks that

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                • A team can obviously have great success coming out of the Valley. We proved it over the years as have many other teams.

                  Conference affiliation doesn’t equate to success whether it’s the Valley, the American, or the ACC. Great teams have great success regardless of conference.

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                  • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
                    A team can obviously have great success coming out of the Valley. We proved it over the years as have many other teams.

                    Conference affiliation doesn’t equate to success whether it’s the Valley, the American, or the ACC. Great teams have great success regardless of conference.
                    Agreed. Conference affiliation isn’t the ticket to success (as most BCS level Basketball programs prove year in year out). The key is being superior to your direct competition in support, financial commitment, recruiting landscape, and brand... final ingredient- add a top 30 coach.
                    Last edited by proshox; March 21, 2021, 12:57 PM.

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                    • proshox is the ONLY person alive dying to go back to the Valley. Good thing you ain’t in charge.
                      Deuces Valley.
                      ... No really, deuces.
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                      "Enjoy the ride."

                      - a smart man

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                      • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
                        A team can obviously have great success coming out of the Valley. We proved it over the years as have many other teams.

                        Conference affiliation doesn’t equate to success whether it’s the Valley, the American, or the ACC. Great teams have great success regardless of conference.
                        obviously true, but being given an at-large bid by a prejudiced selection committee is a different animal

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                        • After the last two seasons, maybe WSU needs to chase everyone recruited by Loyola. They can win.

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                          • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

                            obviously true, but being given an at-large bid by a prejudiced selection committee is a different animal
                            I agree which is why I think it’s crazy talk to wish we were still in the Valley.

                            Under Gregg Marshall is was a matter of if, not when, we got back to being a great team. It’s possible we can get there with IB too he just doesn’t have the track record of Marshall so we just need time to see what happens.

                            A great team in the American is going to get a higher seed than a great team in the Valley a great majority of the time. Having a better seed doesn’t guarantee deep runs but it makes it easier because you can avoid the other top teams longer even if it’s just a game or two.

                            I loved the Valley, still do. It’s an underrated conference.

                            We are better off long term in the American.

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                            • Originally posted by shock View Post

                              Yeah! Because there’s no way Tyson and Ricky could ever make it to the NBA!
                              Tyson could become NBA caliber, not sure about Dexter. Dexter has serious ball handling deficiencies to make it as a 2 guard in the NBA.

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                              • To make it in the NBA, TE needs to work on:

                                - Handling
                                - Driving and Finishing at the basket
                                - Mid-Range
                                - FTs!!!!!

                                He has the deep shooting range already and the work ethic to continue to develop everything else.
                                The Assman

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