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  • Originally posted by Aargh View Post

    If Todd Butler would have won a conference championship and gotten a good seed in a regional in his first year, I believe Shocker fans would have given him their wholehearted support, which is not the treatment IB is getting.

    "We hired the wrong guy" - Yeah, he only got us a conference championship and an NCAA invite in his first year with only 5 guys who had ever played with each other before and only 6 who had played a minute of D1 basketball.

    When a team has 7 players on scholarship who've never played a minute of D1 ball, that's generally considered a rebuild, not a reload.
    I really believe it is a vast vast minority of folks who feel this way about HCIB. Most I’ve seen have been supportive of him. Critiquing a coach is not the same as saying he’s the wrong guy or not supporting him. Even HCGM got fair criticism.

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    • Originally posted by Aargh View Post

      I would like to sincerely thank you for demonstrating that my comment about your brown eyes was spot on.
      When that’s all you got to comeback with, well then you’re the only one rolling around in the brown.
      Deuces Valley.
      ... No really, deuces.
      ________________
      "Enjoy the ride."

      - a smart man

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      • Originally posted by ShockerExpress View Post

        Not really sure how WSU backed into a bid? Just had a resume that was good enough. Did UCLA back into a bid? What about Michigan State? Better yet, what about Duke or Kentucky?

        Also they made 2 field goals in the final 5 minutes on Saturday. Execution was super shitty no doubt.

        Just pointing out that the comment I’ve seen multiple times is incorrect.
        If you’re one of the last two teams selected, it could’ve gone either way. This time we happened to be on the good side. We got extremely lucky that we got invited with how we ended things. Both games sucked. One ended with a W and one with an L. I’m not sure if the committee was watching our game Saturday cuz I’m not sure how we passed the eye test if they did. And our execution for most of the year has been shitty. That’s why we have to hold on to so many 1-5 point leads.

        All that said, we’re in. I’m ecstatic. And I hope we learn a few things and make a little run. But if we play the same way we’ve been playing lately, then we’re gonna get embarrassed off the floor by a Valley team before the tournament even really begins.
        Deuces Valley.
        ... No really, deuces.
        ________________
        "Enjoy the ride."

        - a smart man

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        • Originally posted by mattdalt View Post

          3 future NBA'ers? Fred, Ron, Cle?
          My bad!!! Forgot one!!!

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          • You guys are giving too much attention to the few lousy fans that aren’t on board with this team/coach. The majority are excited for these guys. Ignore the idiots.

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            • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post

              I really believe it is a vast vast minority of folks who feel this way about HCIB. Most I’ve seen have been supportive of him. Critiquing a coach is not the same as saying he’s the wrong guy or not supporting him. Even HCGM got fair criticism.
              Some of the biggest criticism he got was from these guys who believe that IB shouldn't get any criticism.

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              • I understand that Coach Brown is one of the 8 finalist for the Joe B. Hall award. Its an award for 1st time coaches. I did not know they had an award for this.

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                • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post
                  I understand that Coach Brown is one of the 8 finalist for the Joe B. Hall award. Its an award for 1st time coaches. I did not know they had an award for this.
                  He's more than made his case for the honor.

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                  • A bid is a bid. We got a first four bid with 3G and 3 future NBA players on the roster too (though one only played 3 games). I didn't consider that backing into a bid. Just how seasons go. Very rarely are they perfect.

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                    • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                      A bid is a bid. We got a first four bid with 3G and 3 future NBA players on the roster too (though one only played 3 games). I didn't consider that backing into a bid. Just how seasons go. Very rarely are they perfect.
                      At least this time they don't have to then get on a plane and fly halfway cross the country and play the next day. lol

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                      • Originally posted by Windiwu View Post

                        At least this time they don't have to then get on a plane and fly halfway cross the country and play the next day. lol
                        And no matter what the circumstances, DO NOT TAKE A GD BUS to Indy! That seems to have worked out poorly going to Ft. Worth.
                        Last edited by Aargh; March 15, 2021, 10:06 PM.
                        The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                        We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                        • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                          Some of the biggest criticism he got was from these guys who believe that IB shouldn't get any criticism.
                          Example of that?

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                          • Questioning whether or not due diligence was performed in a coaching search (the most important one in Shocker Athletics by a factor of about 1000) or having an informed opinion for a preference of a selection other than the one ultimately made is NOT lack of support for HCIB.

                            I was/am (however you want to say it) in both of those camps, and I have and will continue to support HCIB and Shocker basketball the best that I can.

                            He IS my coach, I am both happy and proud for him and the entire program, including those that paved the way for this success.


                            Go Shocks, beat Drake.

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                            • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                              Questioning whether or not due diligence was performed in a coaching search (the most important one in Shocker Athletics by a factor of about 1000) or having an informed opinion for a preference of a selection other than the one ultimately made is NOT lack of support for HCIB.

                              I was/am (however you want to say it) in both of those camps, and I have and will continue to support HCIB and Shocker basketball the best that I can.

                              He IS my coach, I am both happy and proud for him and the entire program, including those that paved the way for this success.


                              Go Shocks, beat Drake.
                              He is MY coach for MY Basketball team and I will support MY coach and MY team to the best of MY ability.

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                              • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                                Questioning whether or not due diligence was performed in a coaching search (the most important one in Shocker Athletics by a factor of about 1000) or having an informed opinion for a preference of a selection other than the one ultimately made is NOT lack of support for HCIB.

                                I was/am (however you want to say it) in both of those camps, and I have and will continue to support HCIB and Shocker basketball the best that I can.

                                He IS my coach, I am both happy and proud for him and the entire program, including those that paved the way for this success.

                                Go Shocks, beat Drake.
                                I accept him as our coach. However, my support of him doesn’t dissolve questions of whether he will have long term success. Each success that he has will ease my and others concerns. It would be nice to win a couple of games in the tournament, but I don’t have those expectations on this team. Soon, recruiting will be front and center, and if IB can sign a top 4* recruit, and/or an additional big man recruit will Go a long way to show he can do this.

                                However, people just telling me that I need to Blindly believe that our program will remain a Top 40-50 Program will turn me and others off.

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