Coach Gregg Marshall Investigation

[Stickboy46]

https://amp.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article246395400.html?__twitter_impression=true

Apparently ******* didn't talk to Wade or Etienne ... Who both would have been around for some of the allegations

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

I could access the first link but not the second (I've used up my allotted incognito privileges).

When you have the time can you please note some of the pertinent feelings expressed in the second link please?

Here's the amp version - replace www with amp - and it may get around the blocker:

https://amp.kansas.com/sports/colleg...205373009.html

Lots of interesting things from the article - not sure I can list just a few pertinent ones. If you have multiple browsers on your computer, such as Edge on Windows in addition to Chrome, you may be able to access it there just fine and then when you're done, delete the history of that browser and remove all cookies.

Edited to add: In Chrome you can delete just part of your history and that will sometimes reset the incognito privileges. For example, if you choose History from the menu (or open a new tab and put chrome://history/ and press enter), you can do a search for kansas.com or kansas and then check off the entries and just delete them from the history.

[proshox]

https://amp.kansas.com/sports/colleg...mpression=true

Apparently ******* didn't talk to Wade or Etienne ... Who both would have been around for some of the allegations

True, but Taylor is now saying he can independently verify that multiple players say the accounts of punching and choking are true.

[Stickboy46]

True, but Taylor is now saying he can independently verify that multiple players say the accounts of punching and choking are true.

True .. still paints a picture that it was a hit piece if he didn't contact the 2 players that were publicly supporting Marshall already. The question even if they "confirmed it happened". Are they confirming it happened exactly how it was written? I.e. a punch to the face, or is it that a shove to the upper back was seen by others on the other side of the gym as a punch. The details are what really matter. Almost certainty there is some form of punishment coming for Marshall, the severity will be based on the actual details of the facts.

[pinstripers]

https://amp.kansas.com/sports/colleg...mpression=true

Apparently ******* didn't talk to Wade or Etienne ... Who both would have been around for some of the allegations

which ones?

[Stickboy46]

which ones?

The verbal ones.

Stated in the Article:

• Marshall told senior center Jamie Echenique, who is from Colombia, that he would be “a great coffee bean picker” because Echenique struggled at times catching the ball.
  • If he was a Senior, Etienne and Wade were there
• When freshman forward Josaphat Bilau collapsed after running sprints during a workout in the preseason of 2019 and needed assistance from the training staff, Marshall mocked Bilau by falling down on the court. Marshall then also stumbled around as if he was disoriented.
  • Etienne and Wade were there 100% since they arrived at the same time as Bilau
• Erik Stevenson was wide open and didn’t shoot the ball one day in practice this past season. The player closing out on him defensively was black. While in film session, Marshall paused the film. “I think you’re afraid of brothers, guys raised by their grandparents eating PB&J’s.” One black player told Stadium he felt that was a racist remark.
  • "This Past Season" - Wade and Etienne were there

[Dice260]

True .. still paints a picture that it was a hit piece if he didn't contact the 2 players that were publicly supporting Marshall already. The question even if they "confirmed it happened". Are they confirming it happened exactly how it was written? I.e. a punch to the face, or is it that a shove to the upper back was seen by others on the other side of the gym as a punch. The details are what really matter. Almost certainty there is some form of punishment coming for Marshall, the severity will be based on the actual details of the facts.

I've heard something along these lines as well. I've heard through the grapevine that the "punch" is being blown out of proportion. When I think punch, I think gearing up and hitting someone. It sounds to me (again...through the grapevine) that it was a shove that missed. It also seems funny to me that the story changes on exactly where he was "punched." I initially read jaw, the neck, then back, then lower neck. Then all of a sudden there were two punches. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. I don't know what's true and what isn't. There is alot of smoke which typically isn't good, but the stories don't jive.

[Veritas]

Anyone else see Lootz on Twitter trying to go to bat for ******* by shaming the Eagle? LOL! HIlarious. IDK Bob, maybe they aren't sensationalizing the story because a) it's a bunch of anonymous sources and the investigation is ongoing or b) maybe they know that there is more to the story and aren't willing to base everything on *******'s hit piece.

I read it to imply that The Eagle is so under staffed and resourced, that there is no way for Taylor to be successful. The Eagle is a mere shell of what it used to be. It has been gutted for the parent company bottom line. I personally cringe whenever they fill more pages with crap from KC or Lawrence to share KC beat writers articles to make it appear the Eagle is more expansive. Lutz does not seem to be a fan of way the Eagle is run/resourced now days.

[Stickboy46]

I've heard something along these lines as well. I've heard through the grapevine that the "punch" is being blown out of proportion. When I think punch, I think gearing up and hitting someone. It sounds to me (again...through the grapevine) that it was a shove that missed. It also seems funny to me that the story changes on exactly where he was "punched." I initially read jaw, the neck, then back, then lower neck. Then all of a sudden there were two punches. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. I don't know what's true and what isn't. There is alot of smoke which typically isn't good, but the stories don't jive.

Right and to me at least, that's a HUGE deciding factor. A shove in the back is grounds for heavy punishment but likely still employed with LOTS of monitoring and contract restructuring. If it fully was a closed fist punch to the face from behind? Gone and done for.

[RajFaheen]

Anyone else see Lootz on Twitter trying to go to bat for ******* by shaming the Eagle? LOL! HIlarious. IDK Bob, maybe they aren't sensationalizing the story because a) it's a bunch of anonymous sources and the investigation is ongoing or b) maybe they know that there is more to the story and aren't willing to base everything on *******'s hit piece.

Loony Lootz and his clown show have had very little to say about the NCAA investigation of Bill Self.

[wichshock65]

Wade boys dad weighs in. So does ETN and Cottons mom.

[wichshock65]

Right and to me at least, that's a HUGE deciding factor. A shove in the back is grounds for heavy punishment but likely still employed with LOTS of monitoring and contract restructuring. If it fully was a closed fist punch to the face from behind? Gone and done for.

I think you're exacly right, Stick. Personally, I hope we keep our coach.

[pinstripers]

I think you're exacly right, Stick. Personally, I hope our coach is innocent and we keep him.

FIFY

[Stickboy46]

FIFY

Good correction.

[molly jabali]

I read it to imply that The Eagle is so under staffed and resourced, that there is no way for Taylor to be successful. The Eagle is a mere shell of what it used to be. It has been gutted for the parent company bottom line. I personally cringe whenever they fill more pages with crap from KC or Lawrence to share KC beat writers articles to make it appear the Eagle is more expansive. Lutz does not seem to be a fan of way the Eagle is run/resourced now days.

It's not a newspaper anymore...it's a joke.