Coach Gregg Marshall Investigation

[pinstripers]

Coach needs help. If you have tickets, you already know this.

[WuShock16]

Why is Chris Jans still considered toxic? I get it that he had a REALLY bad episode five years ago...but he paid the price for it and seems to have turned around his life...some of that recovery taking place here in the 316. He has had no (reported) issues at New Mexico State. Chris is a damn good coach too.

Hiring him might be a “controversy” for a couple days...but him continuing to keep his nose clean and have success (in that order) would end those concerns quickly.

[mjbaker84]

Slightly off topic, but does anyone still follow Erik on Instagram? He's constantly promoting Forex trading and recruiting people to this Forex business. Is that allowed? When I first saw it, I found it odd especially given he's applying for a waiver and I figured the NCAA would be reviewing everything about him.

Those were my thoughts as well. I didn't think student athletes could profit as he claims he is while... a student athlete. Seems very odd.

[Stickboy46]

Why is Chris Jans still considered toxic? I get it that he had a REALLY bad episode five years ago...but he paid the price for it and seems to have turned around his life...some of that recovery taking place here in the 316. He has had no (reported) issues at New Mexico State. Chris is a damn good coach too.

Hiring him might be a “controversy” for a couple days...but him continuing to keep his nose clean and have success (in that order) would end those concerns quickly.

That stays with you in today's climate ... right or wrong. We could weather that initial PR hit if we were replacing a coach that was retiring under normal circumstances. This is far from normal circumstances IF coach ends up being let go.

[mjbaker84]

Why is Chris Jans still considered toxic? I get it that he had a REALLY bad episode five years ago...but he paid the price for it and seems to have turned around his life...some of that recovery taking place here in the 316. He has had no (reported) issues at New Mexico State. Chris is a damn good coach too.

Hiring him might be a “controversy” for a couple days...but him continuing to keep his nose clean and have success (in that order) would end those concerns quickly.

I just don't think a coach would leave this close to the start of the season for any job. That screws his players he recruited.

[RoyalShock]

Why is Chris Jans still considered toxic? I get it that he had a REALLY bad episode five years ago...but he paid the price for it and seems to have turned around his life...some of that recovery taking place here in the 316. He has had no (reported) issues at New Mexico State. Chris is a damn good coach too.

Hiring him might be a “controversy” for a couple days...but him continuing to keep his nose clean and have success (in that order) would end those concerns quickly.

I agree, but if Marshall is terminated I don't think any coach who still has loyalties to him would take the WSU job.

[ShockerExpress]

I can understand why he/they would be suspicious of talking to a law firm hired by WSU. It's the same principle behind "never talk to the cops".

That said, it does seem suspicious that they wouldn't just give their side of the story if they really wanted to protect the current and future players.

Yep - thought the same. Seems way off.

Obviously there are MAJOR issues to be dealt with. But if Wichita State hired an independent firm to investigate - I would love to know exactly what it was that made the players think it was not going to be impartial before even speaking to them.

[WuShock16]

I just don't think a coach would leave this close to the start of the season for any job. That screws his players he recruited.

This falls into my “assistant as interim, hire next spring” theory.

[wsushox1]

Slightly off topic, but does anyone still follow Erik on Instagram? He's constantly promoting Forex trading and recruiting people to this Forex business. Is that allowed? When I first saw it, I found it odd especially given he's applying for a waiver and I figured the NCAA would be reviewing everything about him.

lmao not surprising he got into a forex pyramid scheme. He's not the brightest bulb

[Stickboy46]

This falls into my “assistant as interim, hire next spring” theory.

I think that's the ONLY way it can go (if coach is fired). Promote Isaac Brown to interim head coach. If he over succeeds, he gets to keep the job, if we just do "good" but not great, we hire in the spring unless something huge falls in our lap (Belien or something like that)

[ShockerDropOut]

Just a gut punch. Was really looking forward for watching basketball again. We’ll see what happens; I just feel like there is too much there for all of it to be fabricated or exaggerated. Hope I’m wrong though.

Well said.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Best case scenario at this point: investigation wraps up soon, describes a few incidents that happened years ago, some current and former players defend HCGM, he publicly admits to some mistakes and apologizes and seeks counseling, announces retirement near end of season, WSU announces hiring of Jans/Forbes at end of season.

Again, best case scenario.

[mjbaker84]

Best case scenario at this point: investigation wraps up soon, describes a few incidents that happened years ago, some current and former players defend HCGM, he publicly admits to some mistakes and apologizes and seeks counseling, announces retirement near end of season, WSU announces hiring of Jans/Forbes at end of season.

Again, best case scenario.

or Billy Donovan or Beilein

[Stickboy46]

Beilein

Is there actually any connection there? Anything besides dumping a ton of money at his doorstep? I feel like we are approaching the same level that we have made fun of every other fan base that assumed Marshall was waiting to jump to their school.

[pinstripers]

Best case scenario at this point: investigation wraps up soon, describes a few incidents that happened years ago, some current and former players defend HCGM, he publicly admits to some mistakes and apologizes and seeks counseling, announces retirement near end of season, WSU announces hiring of Jans/Forbes at end of season.

Again, best case scenario.

I wonder if he's capable of apologizing and actually going to counseling