2019-20 Bracketology

[FlyingWheat]

This morning, Palm has us playing Cincy in the play-in game....wth?

I mean, he’s not 100% wrong, just that the play-in will be this Saturday, not next week.

[Ashockalypse]

Let’s win the tournament.

[ShockerPrez]

Maybe the tournament breaks in our favor....

[Maizerunner08]

I’ll probably throw up if the Valley and American get the same number of bids. For some reason UNI is still getting some love. Even votes in the AP poll today.

[TheShocktocles]

Just a quick look at Lunardi's bracket.

All teams that have a lower net than us that he has in
Stanford
Rutgers
LSU
Indiana
Texas
UCLA
NCSt
ASU
OU
Cincy (i can forgive this since we are 0-2)

He also has Texas Tech. 22 NET, 73 RPI, 7-13 Q1/Q2 record, and a 192 non-con SOS that they went 9-4 in.

Can you or someone please explain how this can be true. I thought the new net scores were suppose to mean something when selecting teams for the tournament. If our net score is better how do these other teams get selected? I mean really what is criteria? (PS I haven't checked your scores, I assume you are right)

[AZ Shocker]

Just a quick look at Lunardi's bracket.

All teams that have a lower net than us that he has in
Stanford
Rutgers
LSU
Indiana
Texas
UCLA
NCSt
ASU
OU
Cincy (i can forgive this since we are 0-2)

He also has Texas Tech. 22 NET, 73 RPI, 7-13 Q1/Q2 record, and a 192 non-con SOS that they went 9-4 in.

Predictable. All mediocre BCS teams he has getting in over us. Tool.

All together now...#stillrigged.

[Maizerunner08]

Predictable. All mediocre BCS teams he has getting in over us. Tool.

All together now...#stillrigged.

Not excited to see the 10th place Big 10 team mediocre their way to a bid?

[Kashman]

Can you or someone please explain how this can be true. I thought the new net scores were suppose to mean something when selecting teams for the tournament. If our net score is better how do these other teams get selected? I mean really what is criteria? (PS I haven't checked your scores, I assume you are right)

Short answer is if we were in a P5 conference with this NET, we would probably be looking at a 7-10 seed and firmly in the field.

[Stickboy46]

Can you or someone please explain how this can be true. I thought the new net scores were suppose to mean something when selecting teams for the tournament. If our net score is better how do these other teams get selected? I mean really what is criteria? (PS I haven't checked your scores, I assume you are right)

The convoluted logic is that the NET ranking is used to determine how good a team is so it can be used to compare Quality Wins/Bad Losses but it's not actually used to just directly compare teams ...

[T.VuOP]

Can you or someone please explain how this can be true. I thought the new net scores were suppose to mean something when selecting teams for the tournament. If our net score is better how do these other teams get selected? I mean really what is criteria? (PS I haven't checked your scores, I assume you are right)

He had the experience and knew how the Selection Committee selects: market. The P5 and BE have larger market (or fanbase).

[Kel Varnsen]

A big problem with the way the committee uses NET is that the raw ranking isn't good enough, even though a team's record vs Q1 or whatever subset of data you want to analyze is already baked into the NET rankings. It makes the selection process so subjective and impossible to predict, and typically harms teams outside of the traditional power structure (anyone outside of the P5 + Big East).

I will likely start a topic on Wins Above Bubble/Strength of Record at some point. It's worth the analysis and they are both much better descriptive metrics. We would be an 8 seed as of today based on Seth Burn's WAB ratings (use the "Blend" sheet): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1968222848

[Maizerunner08]

So if the season ended today, think we’d be in?

[AZ Shocker]

Not excited to see the 10th place Big 10 team mediocre their way to a bid?

Nope. Nor should anybody. Except the people who run the NCAA and cash those TV revenue checks. Travesty how advertising money (demands) waters down the best tournament on earth.

[Horn28Clem30]

I’ll probably throw up if the Valley and American get the same number of bids. For some reason UNI is still getting some love. Even votes in the AP poll today.

Agreed completely and it's amazing how UNI fans still think they belong because they beat Colorado. Literally no other good wins, and some horrible losses. Not to mention played 2 non D1 schools in the non conference and left one game on the table. Absolutely no way!

[ShockerPrez]

So if the season ended today, think we’d be in?

I actually think we would be. Probably 1st 4 though.