The potential irony of Conner Frankamp and Perry Ellis

[Shock Therapy]

Bo is the WISC coach, correct? I remember the Iowa kid that wanted to GI home but he wouldn't allow it.

Yup. That happened about a year or two ago. As I remember it he set it up so the kid couldn't go anywhere in the Big 10, ACC, any other school in Iowa or Wisconsin, and was adding just about any other school that the kid showed interest in. I never heard if he let up on the kid or not, but a lot of high profile coaches got a lot of negative attention in the wake of the incident.

[MoValley John]

On Connor not wanting to red shirt, maybe he knew he would need that extra year to sit out as a transfer? He might have seen the writing on the wall as soon as he got there.

I dont know much, actually anything about this Frankenberry dude in which you are all discussing. Tbat said, he could tweek a muscle in his forehead, cheek or nose, transfer to Wichita State, bloom into an importantant role player, then successfully petition the NCAA for a sixth year, ala Grant Gibbs.

Just a thought.

[rrshock]

I dont know much, actually anything about this Frankenberry dude in which you are all discussing. Tbat said, he could tweek a muscle in his forehead, cheek or nose, transfer to Wichita State, bloom into an importantant role player, then successfully petition the NCAA for a sixth year, ala Grant Gibbs.

Just a thought.

KU would see to it that he wouldn't get that extra year.

[Blackmag]

i dont think frankcamps ego will let him change schools. i think he feels he's that good. he would have to be a backup to vanvleet, vanvleet is head and shoulders over him, and so is baker. so much for 5-star ratings and super hype

[Play Angry]

KU would take a pretty nasty PR hit within the city league if they refused to let a kid transfer home when he's only getting mop up minutes every other game.

[rrshock]

KU would take a pretty nasty PR hit within the city league if they refused to let a kid transfer home when he's only getting mop up minutes every other game.

This is what I believe also. There will be a day again soon that a kid comes out of the city that is highly rated. And if BS does something to CF, then it will be made very clear to the recruit.

[jocoshock]

KU would take a pretty nasty PR hit within the city league if they refused to let a kid transfer home when he's only getting mop up minutes every other game.

True, but I doubt they care. They own the state in their mind and if they want your opinion or mine, they will give it to us...

They might worry a little bit about KSU benefitting from that PR hit, but only if KSU becomes more consistently competitive.

Having said that, I don't see him wanting to leave anyway. I see him as another Connor Teahan, who would walkon to KU before taking a scholarship somewhere else.

[WuDrWu]

The cart is WAY out in front of the horse here, but there's no way Self wouldn't release him to any school not in the Big12, and probably still every school in the Big12. He would transfer without difficulty.

[pogo]

True, but I doubt they care. They own the state in their mind and if they want your opinion or mine, they will give it to us...

They might worry a little bit about KSU benefitting from that PR hit, but only if KSU becomes more consistently competitive.

Having said that, I don't see him wanting to leave anyway. I see him as another Connor Teahan, who would walkon to KU before taking a scholarship somewhere else.

I believe along with joco that ku feels they recruit on a national stage and any hard feelings in the city league would just be tough for the city league.

[SHOCKvalue]

This thread should probably die. If the tangents in here were graphically plotted it would look like a schizophrenic got a hold of an Etch-A-Sketch.

[jocoshock]

This thread should probably die. If the tangents in here were graphically plotted it would look like a schizophrenic got a hold of an Etch-A-Sketch.

If you want it to die, the LAST thing you want to do is introduce graphs and numbers... :-)

And it should probably die.. :-)

[WSUwatcher]

I think we accept any player, who the coaching staff thinks will improve our team, with open arms.

With all due respect to dwbarcl, I can see how speculating about a possible future for Frankamp at WSU relates to Shocker basketball.

Having said that, the real question is whether he would improve the program enough to spend a scholarship on him. I don't know Frankamp from Adam, so I don't know about his attitude. But if he really is a me-first guy, as big scorers who were acclaimed recruits can often be, and he doesn't play defense, that's not exactly the profile for a Marshall-type player. If he were to come here, sit out next year, get an attitude transplant if necessary, bulk up a bit, and learn to play defense, it's still hard to see him getting much time in 2015-16. Baker and FVV will be seniors; Zach Brown may be a 6-6/6-7 combo guard with a year of WSU experience by then; Corey Henderson will presumably be the backup PG, also with a year of experience; and Rian Holland will be an experienced redshirt sophomore with similar size and reputation as a long range shooter, plus presumably fewer concerns about attitude or his ability to play defense (or else he'd never have been recruited in the first place). So whom does Frankamp displace? And if he's unhappy not playing now, why would that change?

I wish Perry Ellis had come to WSU, and I can see him fitting in well here. I believe both he and WSU would have been better off if he had done so instead of falling for the lure of the Phog. Not nearly so clear about Frankamp at all.

[Capitol Shock II]

Who plays point for KU and what year are they?

[another shocker]

Who plays point for KU and what year are they?

'sounds like self came in late at fvv.. too late.

[Shox1979]

Frank Mason, and he's a freshman. And next year KU has a top 15 SG with a lot more size than Frankamp so I'm not sure his prospects there look too good either.

Who plays point for KU and what year are they?