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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Hell, we were a couple bad calls away from laying a 20 spot on them up in Bugaha. In Koch Arena it's Evansville time. They would have folded like a bunch of lawn chairs. I can't even imagine the environment for that game in the Roundhouse. One thing is for sure, Mr. Lothario's toupee mystery would have been solved. Nothing bolted down to the floor would have stayed put on that evening. His front-left part would have ended up back-right as he exited the tunnel.

    And just think, one of the stars of the game was a Wichita kid who couldn't have even made it as a walk-on up at ChicKUn Central. That's Play Angry son; that's Gregg Marshall at his absolute best. He needs to dance with the one that brought him. No need to get fancy for the AAC. Let's give 'em a dose of what made us famous.


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  • WuShock16
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
    Gregg Marshall's teams were the hardest working in the NCAA. Just ask Kentucky in 2014 what it was like playing a team full of blue-collar players operating at full Play Angry. Ask the ChicKUns.
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    Oh, how fun would it have been to watch the 2013-2015 teams have a major-conference schedule? Would the 2014 team have gone undefeated? Most likely not, but those guys knew how to bring it in big games. I have long said that had 78-65 taken place in Koch Arena, it wouldn't have been 78-65 but instead much worse for the Beakers. They would have gone into the fetal position as the roof approached implosion status.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post

    How so?
    Gregg Marshall has been known for "Play Angry" basketball most of his career. It was only finally given a name by Antoine Carr. There are literally volumes of historical data and outside observations that define and/or describe the frenetic pace and fearlessness of a Gregg Marshall team.

    Gregg's gift is getting (or creating) hardened players who will run through walls for him. Gregg has other gifts but that's what he's primarily known for... well, that and never taking timeouts lol.

    Talent is an afterthought in Marshall's recruiting. It's all about getting good athletes from disciplined backgrounds. The discipline being of utmost importance as the player will be pressured severely once on campus and asked to do things that are painful. Gregg wants soldiers, not "royalty". In fact I believe Gregg's philosophy has a talent ceiling. Legit NBA products out of high school are not interested in wearing their body down before they get paid. Play Angry basketball is very hard on the body. But the recruits coming to WSU realize from the onset that if they are going to make it to the NBA, they're gonna have to get there the hard way. Everything about Play Angry involves hard work and extra effort. It helps greatly if a player comes to WSU with a chip on their shoulder.

    Last year we turned soft. Nobody knows quite how it happened but it was surely a mixture of coaching and leadership on the floor. Some of our players were injured and some just too pretty. We had sputtering amounts of Play Angry remaining (and much more offensive potency than normal) to carry us to a bunch of wins but we were paper tigers. Marshall's teams have always been known as post-season killers; they always peak at the end of the season. His Winthrop teams put a scare in a power program every single NCAA year and once even brought one down. Last year's performance against Marshall is probably the best indication of how far we'd fallen. It had nothing to do with talent.

    Hard work (T)rumps talent each and every time. Gregg Marshall's teams were the hardest working in the NCAA. Just ask Kentucky in 2014 what it was like playing a team full of blue-collar players operating at full Play Angry. Ask the ChicKUns.


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  • C0|dB|00ded
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  • Kel Varnsen
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

    Incorrect.


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    How so?

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
    Our "edge" that we lost was four future NBA players, one of whom is currently the best sixth man in the NBA, and one of whom just scored 17 points the other night.

    Our "edge" that we lost was two dead-eye shooters who shot a combined 42.1% from 3 on nearly 500 attempts in their last two seasons.

    Our "edge" that we lost was FOUR seniors who are all playing professionally abroad and each performing exceptionally.

    Our "edge" that we lost was an assistant coach who is widely considered one of the best tacticians in the college game.

    Our "edge" that we lost was a conference that laid down and played dead for us in the last four seasons we were a member.

    Our "edge" that we lost wasn't some ethereal "Play Angry Mentality" discussed by fans as if it's some Jedi mind trick that no one can seem to articulate how to attain or keep and is used to insult less-talented players; it was predominantly talent and coaching.
    Incorrect.


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  • Kel Varnsen
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    Our "edge" that we lost was four future NBA players, one of whom is currently the best sixth man in the NBA, and one of whom just scored 17 points the other night.

    Our "edge" that we lost was two dead-eye shooters who shot a combined 42.1% from 3 on nearly 500 attempts in their last two seasons.

    Our "edge" that we lost was FOUR seniors who are all playing professionally abroad and each performing exceptionally.

    Our "edge" that we lost was an assistant coach who is widely considered one of the best tacticians in the college game.

    Our "edge" that we lost was a conference that laid down and played dead for us in the last four seasons we were a member.

    Our "edge" that we lost wasn't some ethereal "Play Angry Mentality" discussed by fans as if it's some Jedi mind trick that no one can seem to articulate how to attain or keep and is used to insult less-talented players; it was predominantly talent and coaching.

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  • The Mad Hatter
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    Originally posted by Shocker_Power View Post
    To me, the place you get better is in practice. Competition, is the test of the learning that took place in practice.
    Obligatory

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  • Shocker_Power
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    Originally posted by Dave Stalwart View Post
    To me the goal is to face the tough competition and learn from it and hopefully learn enough to become dangerous by the conference tournament. It’s hard to bank on very many wins in January when you look at the schedule
    To me, the place you get better is in practice. Competition, is the test of the learning that took place in practice.

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  • Kung Wu
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    Truth.

  • Dave Stalwart
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    To me the goal is to face the tough competition and learn from it and hopefully learn enough to become dangerous by the conference tournament. It’s hard to bank on very many wins in January when you look at the schedule

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by kcshocker11 View Post
    The AAC will toughen this team up. Time to step up the learning curb.
    Ooohhh. Marshall's learning curb where you either get kicked to it or stomped on it. Nice.


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  • C0|dB|00ded
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  • kcshocker11
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    The AAC will toughen this team up. Time to step up the learning curb.

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