American Athletic Conference

[Spaulding]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17281618/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-interview-17-schools-expansion

Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.

So who is the 17th team? I only count 16 listed.

[Cdizzle]

So who is the 17th team? I only count 16 listed.

Missouri State. They are using a secretive sealed envelope system so ESPN didn't pick up on it.

[Dave Stalwart]

http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion

Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.

So who is the 17th team? I only count 16 listed.

That's a lot of names that could lead to a move for WSU. A lot of room could open up if they right schools get selected.

[MoValley John]

http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion

Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.

So who is the 17th team? I only count 16 listed.

Sheesh, you people are dense! Everyone knows it's the Missouri State Bears.

[shock]

http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion

Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.

So who is the 17th team? I only count 16 listed.

Arkansas State

[SHOCKvalue]

Arkansas State

Not sure if serious.

[Shocker-maniac]

Not sure if serious.

About as serious as an NCAA Men's Basketball Coach going berserk during an exhibition game in Canada:

Brett McMurphy
@McMurphyESPN
Now up to 18 on Big 12’s expansion list: AF ArkSt Boise BYU Cincinnati CSU UConn ECU Houston Memphis NIU NM SDSU SMU Temple Tulane UCF USF

[SHOCKvalue]

About as serious as an NCAA Men's Basketball Coach going berserk during an exhibition game in Canada:

Brett McMurphy
@McMurphyESPN
Now up to 18 on Big 12’s expansion list: AF ArkSt Boise BYU Cincinnati CSU UConn ECU Houston Memphis NIU NM SDSU SMU Temple Tulane UCF USF

Well hell, Butler County CC might as well throw their hat in the ring then if ASU is going there. For perspective, ASU spends a full $10M less annually on their sports program than football-less WSU. They're similar in sports funding to ISUb. If they were in the MVC they would be in the running for worst financially-supported public.

And some think we're delusional...

[WuDrWu]

And some think we're delusional...

But they can deliver the Jonesboro television market.

[Aargh]

Northern Illinois? Elgin better hurry up and invite them before the B12 steals an Illinois school from the MVC.

[ShockTalk]

About as serious as an NCAA Men's Basketball Coach going berserk during an exhibition game in Canada:

Brett McMurphy
@McMurphyESPN
Now up to 18 on Big 12’s expansion list: AF ArkSt Boise BYU Cincinnati CSU UConn ECU Houston Memphis NIU NM SDSU SMU Temple Tulane UCF USF

So Tulsa is the only full member of the AAC that didn't throw their hat in. In what universe does ECU, Temple, Tulane, UCF, and USF think they have a better, or even equal, chance as their conference mates Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Memphis, and SMU to fill a maximum of 4 spots. I guess no one but Tulsa can be mad about their mates jumping.

On the other hand, I wonder how other MWC schools feel about NM, Boise, AF, SDSU, and CSU, particularly since BYU is also in the mix and, if selected, there would be a good chance the Big 12 might pick off one of the other 4 to go with BYU.

I'd go BYU, Boise, Cincinnati, and Houston if they go to 16. That would pretty much kill AAC and MWC football.

[Steeleshocker]

So Tulsa is the only full member of the AAC that didn't throw their hat in. In what universe does ECU, Temple, Tulane, UCF, and USF think they have a better, or even equal, chance as their conference mates Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Memphis, and SMU to fill a maximum of 4 spots. I guess no one but Tulsa can be mad about their mates jumping.

On the other hand, I wonder how other MWC schools feel about NM, Boise, AF, SDSU, and CSU, particularly since BYU is also in the mix and, if selected, there would be a good chance the Big 12 might pick off one of the other 4 to go with BYU.

I'd go BYU, Boise, Cincinnati, and Houston if they go to 16. That would pretty much kill AAC and MWC football.

That would only get them to 14, right?

[ShockTalk]

That would only get them to 14, right?

Stupid facts!

I stand corrected. However, I do not think they would add more than 4 schools. More likely, just 2.

[Shocker1976]

Berry Tramel, Oklahoma sports journalist, suggests that the Big 12 should merge rather than expand. What is the impact for the Shockers should this scenario unfold?

http://newsok.com/tramel-merger-with-sec-or-pac-12-is-the-big-12s-only-chance-for-stability/article/5513732

[WUpigsooie]

Berry Tramel, Oklahoma sports journalist, suggests that the Big 12 should merge rather than expand. What is the impact for the Shockers should this scenario unfold?

http://newsok.com/tramel-merger-with...rticle/5513732

I don't know what "best case" is for WSU should this happen, but regardless it would be bad news. Consolidation of the major powers is a can of worms I don't want opened.