Healthcare Hypocricy?

[1979Shocker]

I didn't check what it would be, but I believe for that family in Louisville, most of the $900 would be wiped out with financial assistance.

[SubGod22]

I didn't check what it would be, but I believe for that family in Louisville, most of the $900 would be wiped out with financial assistance.

First, that depends on how much they make. Second, that financial assistance means more taxes and raised prices for everything else. A lot of people aren't going to get much assistance anyway because they make "too much" money, so the increase has a big impact. The middle class is paying the price for this.

And none of that gets to the point of doctors getting out of the profession because this "law" is such a pain in the neck and has tons of red tape. Doctors and hospitals will receive less money for a lot more patients and proceedures. It also means them working more hours for less pay. It also means many hospital jobs are being cut. And that's no different from the private sector which is reducing hours and cutting jobs because of this. And millions will still be uninsured.

So again, what are the positives of this?

[SubGod22]

I forgot to mention that Nancy Pelosi has a response for those who lose their jobs or have had their hours cut. She says it only creates an opportunity to pursue something you want to do like music, painting or writing a book...... Because we all know how well those pay the bills for most folks.

[RoyalShock]

I forgot to mention that Nancy Pelosi has a response for those who lose their jobs or have had their hours cut. She says it only creates an opportunity to pursue something you want to do like music, painting or writing a book...... Because we all know how well those pay the bills for most folks.

Pelosi has to be the most out of touch representative of the last several decades. A complete buffoon.

[1979Shocker]

I found the following interesting.

AMAC Supports the “Defund ObamaCare Act of 2013”

by Andrew Mangione – To date, AMAC has received over 117,000 signed petitions from members calling for ObamaCare to be defunded. It is in response to these demands that AMAC is pleased to indicate our unwavering support for H.R. 2682 and S. 1292 – the “Defund ObamaCare Act of 2013.”

This is the same Andy Mangione that said his premium was basically tripling.

Here's a link about the letter Humana send out to people in Kentucky.

Ky. probes Humana letter on insurance renewals

LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The letter Ray Brundige received from Humana spelled out two options — keep his health insurance policy for one more year for a $279 monthly premium or choose a new one that complies with the Affordable Care Act and pay a whopping $619 a month.

But the letter also said he had to make a choice by Sept. 20, before the Oct. 1 start of Kentucky's health benefit exchange, a program designed to let him and other Kentuckians shop for less-expensive insurance that complies with the health care law, often called Obamacare, and possibly qualify for government subsidies to help pay for it.

State Department of Insurance officials described Brundige's letter and 6,500 like it that Humana sent to Kentucky policyholders as "misleading," and they say they are investigating the matter. State officials are also reviewing a letter by Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield asking people to "call now" to lock in "today's affordable rates."

[SubGod22]

So it only more than doubles. That makes it all okay......

Here's a link to the union letter from Hoffa to Reid and Pelosi that Senator Cruz has been quoting from.

[SubGod22]

Pay more, get less: Introducing ObamaCare in Illinois

[1979Shocker]

How the insurance exchanges stack up

WASHINGTON — Most Americans buying insurance from new state health exchanges will have at least two insurers to choose from, and six out of 10 people could pay less than $100 a month in premiums, a report to be released Wednesday by the Department of Health and Human Services shows.

The report analyzed insurance plans and premiums in 36 states where the federal government will either run or help run the exchanges, which are websites where state residents can shop for and buy health insurance starting Oct. 1.

In those 36 states, 95% of people will have two or more plans to choose from, while the average premium for all states and all ages will be $328, according to HHS. However, anyone who makes less than 400% of the federal poverty level, or about $94,000 for a family of four, will be eligible for a federal tax subsidy that will immediately be deducted from the cost of the insurance policy.

[SB Shock]

How the insurance exchanges stack up

If really true means that taxpayers are going to be required to pick up 90% of the cost. Also the next question is what services u will get for that 100 dollar premium - probably not health insurance but catastrophe insurance.

[SubGod22]

From everything I've been reading, the HHS quotes have been over "Bronze" packages and they're comparing that to what most people currently have which are better than that. They refuse to give apples to apples comparisons. And as pointed out, subsidizing things for people doesn't make it cheaper, it just passes on most of the costs to the taxpayers. And even doing that, the prices aren't better. This whole thing is a giant piece of **** that they're trying to force us all to eat.

[wu_shizzle]

From everything I've been reading, the HHS quotes have been over "Bronze" packages and they're comparing that to what most people currently have which are better than that. They refuse to give apples to apples comparisons. And as pointed out, subsidizing things for people doesn't make it cheaper, it just passes on most of the costs to the taxpayers. And even doing that, the prices aren't better. This whole thing is a giant piece of **** that they're trying to force us all to eat.

When working class people with insurance realize that their premiums are going to double, it's going to go one of two ways.

The Democrats hope they take the "cheaper" route and sign up for Obamacare (Which will destroy the insurance market) and the Republicans hope that they want to keep the healthcare that they've known, and will throw out every Democrat who signed their name to this thing.

We'll see what happens...

[SubGod22]

When working class people with insurance realize that their premiums are going to double, it's going to go one of two ways.

The Democrats hope they take the "cheaper" route and sign up for Obamacare (Which will destroy the insurance market) and the Republicans hope that they want to keep the healthcare that they've known, and will throw out every Democrat who signed their name to this thing.

We'll see what happens...

Not JUST the Democrats. There are some Republicans that need to be sent away as well.

[SubGod22]

He really does live in his own little world doesn't he? Obama claims 'no widespread evidence' law hurts jobs, amid cutbacks...

Here's a list of over 300 employers around the country who have cut hours and/or axed jobs because of ObamaCare

[kcshocker11]

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/why-obamacare-bad-reputation-forever-150236714.html

[1979Shocker]

Medicaid gap prevents thousands of Kansans from getting coverage