Assault on the Capitol

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Just an exceptional video from an exceptional politician. I feel badly for Graham and Cruz who both lost a lot of their reputation selling out for Trump. It's hard to blame them though; Trump was handing out Conservative legislation/appointments like a crack dealer tossing free crack over a school yard fence. They were defenseless to his seduction (as was I). They sold their souls and realized over the last half year or so who they sold their souls to.

I feel badly for the Christians also. Trump pandered to them like no other. I never fully believed his sincerity, but his Christian-biased displays were difficult to resist. I watch my mother now struggle with what she "believes" and what she sees. She won't accept the fact that Trump is bad. He's was sent from God she says. "Sorry mom", I explained to her, attempting to give her a way out that is scriptural; "The Bible says that the leaders of this world are 'ordained by God'. Therefore you need to understand that Trump was here for a reason and now Biden." It's no surprise that she had a problem w/ my logic... even though it was perfect. ;)

I also asked her to unplug. I said, just give me 2 months w/o Rush Limbaugh. Don't let him interpret your reality for you. Use your own eyes to see.

I wish all of ya'll would do the same.

[SubGod22]

Just an exceptional video from an exceptional politician. I feel badly for Graham and Cruz who both lost a lot of their reputation selling out for Trump. It's hard to blame them though; Trump was handing out Conservative legislation/appointments like a crack dealer tossing free crack over a school yard fence. They were defenseless to his seduction (as was I). They sold their souls and realized over the last half year or so who they sold their souls to.

I feel badly for the Christians also. Trump pandered to them like no other. I never fully believed his sincerity, but his Christian-biased displays were difficult to resist. I watch my mother now struggle with what she "believes" and what she sees. She won't accept the fact that Trump is bad. He's was sent from God she says. "Sorry mom", I explained to her, attempting to give her a way out that is scriptural; "The Bible says that the leaders of this world are 'ordained by God'. Therefore you need to understand that Trump was here for a reason and now Biden." It's no surprise that she had a problem w/ my logic... even though it was perfect. ;)

I also asked her to unplug. I said, just give me 2 months w/o Rush Limbaugh. Don't let him interpret your reality for you. Use your own eyes to see.

I wish all of ya'll would do the same.

I feel sorry for none of them. Have principles. Have a backbone. Have dignity. Bowing before one man or even party demands gets you zero sympathy from me. You are accountable for your actions regardless of what the president or party leadership decrees.

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I feel sorry for none of them. Have principles. Have a backbone. Have dignity. Bowing before one man or even party demands gets you zero sympathy from me. You are accountable for your actions regardless of what the president or party leadership decrees.

Well said.

[WuDrWu]

How about 1 four year term for congress and 1 six year term for senators and 1 6 year term for President. If they can't run for reelection they could possible get something done.

I would absolutely support that, immediately. I guess I was just suggesting something, anything, to limit all these people. It is BEYOND arrogant to think you're the only person that can adequately represent the people of your district or state. Seriously. A Senator, like like Mitch McConnell or Chuck Schumer should be PROUD and excited and willing to pass the torch to another Kentuckian or New Yorker to continue their work. But no, they MUST be re-elected because they are the only one out of millions of residents that are capable of making good decisions. And I'll say the same thing about Bob Dole for 24+ years and Pat Roberts for 24 years. That's ridiculous and I admire both men as much as anyone could. And I'll say the same thing about Senator Moran (I was at his office just this week) after he's done serving his 2nd term. We need fewer, not more tenured, career politicians.

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I would absolutely support that, immediately. I guess I was just suggesting something, anything, to limit all these people. It is BEYOND arrogant to think you're the only person that can adequately represent the people of your district or state. Seriously. A Senator, like like Mitch McConnell or Chuck Schumer should be PROUD and excited and willing to pass the torch to another Kentuckian or New Yorker to continue their work. But no, they MUST be re-elected because they are the only one out of millions of residents that are capable of making good decisions. And I'll say the same thing about Bob Dole for 24+ years and Pat Roberts for 24 years. That's ridiculous and I admire both men as much as anyone could. And I'll say the same thing about Senator Moran (I was at his office just this week) after he's done serving his 2nd term. We need fewer, not more tenured, career politicians.

If there was someway to make it a job of honor, but not necessarily one of significant power. A deacon in a church comes to mind. They have important duties, and their election doesn't come without a solid reputation and vetting, but they are more servants than nobleman. My first thought was to make it unpaid, but my second thought was that would guarantee it would only be held by the wealthy. Perhaps decentralize the institution. Allow the leaders to vote from their states - speak virtually. This would discourage the fraternization w/ each other and lobbyists. Turn the House of Representatives and Senate chambers into a museum. The centralization was a thing of the past because of commute time. We don't need that anymore. Hell, maybe make the White House a museum too. Provide a couple presidential mansions across the country for security. The idea is, that you are elected to serve, not join a community of Dukes and Duchesses living with the King in Washington. Keep these servants in Kansas, Nebraska, and Idaho.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I would absolutely support that, immediately. I guess I was just suggesting something, anything, to limit all these people. It is BEYOND arrogant to think you're the only person that can adequately represent the people of your district or state. Seriously. A Senator, like like Mitch McConnell or Chuck Schumer should be PROUD and excited and willing to pass the torch to another Kentuckian or New Yorker to continue their work. But no, they MUST be re-elected because they are the only one out of millions of residents that are capable of making good decisions. And I'll say the same thing about Bob Dole for 24+ years and Pat Roberts for 24 years. That's ridiculous and I admire both men as much as anyone could. And I'll say the same thing about Senator Moran (I was at his office just this week) after he's done serving his 2nd term. We need fewer, not more tenured, career politicians.

Agree 100%. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[BOBB]

Cruz's reputation was dogshit even among his own party's senators. It may have even been Graham that said they wouldn't call an ambulance for him if he we was dying or something along those lines.

Graham had a reputation as a dealmaker and a moderate and as a supporter of McCain against W (how much better shape would we be in if that happened?) Maybe he just needs an Alpha to follow. His reputation now is that of a lickspittle. Sgt O'Neil to Trump's Barnes or McCain's Elias. Smithers to Burns.

edit: Graham's quote

• "If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you,"

[BOBB]

If there was someway to make it a job of honor, but not necessarily one of significant power. A deacon in a church comes to mind. They have important duties, and their election doesn't come without a solid reputation and vetting, but they are more servants than nobleman. My first thought was to make it unpaid, but my second thought was that would guarantee it would only be held by the wealthy. Perhaps decentralize the institution. Allow the leaders to vote from their states - speak virtually. This would discourage the fraternization w/ each other and lobbyists. Turn the House of Representatives and Senate chambers into a museum. The centralization was a thing of the past because of commute time. We don't need that anymore. Hell, maybe make the White House a museum too. Provide a couple presidential mansions across the country for security. The idea is, that you are elected to serve, not join a community of Dukes and Duchesses living with the King in Washington. Keep these servants in Kansas, Nebraska, and Idaho.

Part time and your employer must make accommodation like guard or reserve service. Maybe summer in Washington when the kids are on break.

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Part time and your employer must make accommodation like guard or reserve service. Maybe summer in Washington when the kids are on break.

Definitely like the idea of having a "regular job" along with your part-time elected representative job.

Why not completely dismantle the entire Washington complex? That would be so innovative and American. Turn it into one big amusement park (isn't it already?) Break up the Washington gangs and segregate the servants from those amoral individuals who reside there for the sole purpose of corrupting them.

Then we could build 3 presidential mansions: east, west, and central.

[wufan]

Will riots continue tonight? No because Mayor Bowser will not allow any lawful or unlawful protests tonight or any other night. Summertime, protests, riots, statue property demolished all ok.
How many days in a row were riots happening in Portland and DC by the same rioters night after night?

100 days of riots in Portland.

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100 days of riots in Portland.

That fact is really annoying but it would be disingenuous to not admit the differences between the Capitol building in Washington during the electoral ballot count and a couple blocks in Portland over the summer. Had the rioters permanently "occupied" the Capitol it could have become something really scary across the country. It could have become a military issue. Trump was very clever aligning with the police/military for 4 years prior to this stunt. I am more than confident there were a large percentage of military that would have "joined" his coup.

****ing crazy times man...

Last night I was Googling "comparisons between the riot in DC and Portland" and I had a few hits. I will share an article now for the sake of full disclosure and the pursuit of ultimate truth.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/01/...ol-washington/

On Wednesday, a pro-Trump mob storming the U.S. Capitol seemed to face little resistance from law enforcement, breaking into the heart of the federal government with shocking ease.

Local Black Lives Matter protesters, glued to the insurrection at the Capitol at home and at work, said they were struck by the restraint with which law enforcement responded to the mob of mostly white Trump supporters in Washington D.C. compared with the tear gas, riot munitions, and other heavy-handed tactics police — including federal law enforcement — used on them in Portland this summer.

“Every night we were met by violence. Tear gas, batons, arrests, right away. And that would just be for us out there yelling and vocalizing our frustrations of us being killed,” said Dre Miller, an activist and regular attendee of the nightly racial justice demonstrations that began with the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis last summer and stretched into early fall. “But today it wasn’t like that. It was vacant. It was available for them to actually overthrow the capitol.

“It’s just wild how different the response is.”

Miller was hospitalized in July after federal officers shot him in the head with a tear-gas canister. He said Wednesday’s events served as just the latest example of far-right groups receiving what he and other activists perceived as favorable treatment at the hands of law enforcement.

Not intended to trigger anyone, just a BLM protester's perspective. They feel the Trump rioters got off very easy. It's important to remember that everybody has a different perspective, and even a crazed Portland occupier could feel justified in their actions. Fairness w/ law enforcement is important for a free and fair society.

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100 days of riots in Portland.

Another thing, the quickness in the resolution of the riot may have a lot to do with the civility of the people involved, if that makes any sense. A lot of the Trumpers, even the really crazy ones, consider law-and-order a fundamental tenet of society. Perhaps many of them stopped in the middle of their tracks and asked themselves, "Wtf am I doing?". At that moment they snapped out of their propagandist-induced frenzy and went back to being normal, hard-working Americans. Most of those little pukes in Portland likely didn't have a job.

[ShockerFever]

That fact is really annoying but it would be disingenuous to not admit the differences between the Capitol building in Washington during the electoral ballot count and a couple blocks in Portland over the summer. Had the rioters permanently "occupied" the Capitol it could have become something really scary across the country. It could have become a military issue. Trump was very clever aligning with the police/military for 4 years prior to this stunt. I am more than confident there were a large percentage of military that would have "joined" his coup.

****ing crazy times man...

Last night I was Googling "comparisons between the riot in DC and Portland" and I had a few hits. I will share an article now for the sake of full disclosure and the pursuit of ultimate truth.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/01/...ol-washington/





Not intended to trigger anyone, just a BLM protester's perspective. They feel the Trump rioters got off very easy. It's important to remember that everybody has a different perspective, and even a crazed Portland occupier could feel justified in their actions. Fairness w/ law enforcement is important for a free and fair society.

LMFAO.

Didn’t like 4 people die yesterday? How many peaceful protesters were killed over the entire summer?

I swear in the country, anytime there’s a chance to play the race card, it will most assuredly happen. And the scum ass one sided media will surely run with it.

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Another thing, the quickness in the resolution of the riot may have a lot to do with the civility of the people involved, if that makes any sense. A lot of the Trumpers, even the really crazy ones, consider law-and-order a fundamental tenet of society. Perhaps many of them stopped in the middle of their tracks and asked themselves, "Wtf am I doing?". At that moment they snapped out of their propagandist-induced frenzy and went back to being normal, hard-working Americans. Most of those little pukes in Portland likely didn't have a job.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01...electoral-vote

The first federal complaint accused Mark J. Leffingwell of assaulting a Capitol Police officer around 2:30 p.m. on Wednesday in a hallway in the Senate wing of the Capitol building. The officer, Daniel Amendola, said in the complaint that Mr. Leffingwell was part of a crowd that had “breached a window.” When Officer Amendola sought to stop him and others from entering the building any further, Mr. Leffingwell punched him repeatedly in the head and chest, according to the complaint. Mr. Leffingwell then “spontaneously apologized.”

See? Like that. Normal people who were manipulated by propagandizers waking up to the crimes they were committing.

I'm telling you straight up; if you are listening to Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin during the afternoons then doing the full circuit of Hannity/Tucker/Ingraham/etc. in the evenings on FOX, you are being indoctrinated. It's extremist porn. And I used to indulge in all of it prior to my separation from Trump in June. It's absolutely amazing the impact it was having on me politically. Every ****ing night, the DIMS are out to get Trump, the DIMS are out to get Trump.

I have no doubt the exact same thing happens on MSNBC/CNN. America needs to UNPLUG from these inciters. These are the people who have separated us. The mainstream media (and that absolutely includes FOX) are our true enemy. MSNBC/CNN loved Trump just as much as FOX did.

My recommendation, if you need to watch some evening news, is to choose from one of the major 3 legacy networks. I have occasionally watched the "nighttime news" on a random ABC/CBS station and it is nothing like the cable networks. Not any of the Meet The Press bullshit, just the standard old news. Or better yet, don't watch anything at all. Just read the WSJ, CNBC, AP, Reuters,... even NPR isn't bad as long as you don't stay too long.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Check this news station out. Marketing themselves as unbiased. I hope they grow.

https://wgnamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NN_BUREAU_SPOT_EveryNight.mp4

https://wgnamerica.com/

[wufan]

That fact is really annoying but it would be disingenuous to not admit the differences between the Capitol building in Washington during the electoral ballot count and a couple blocks in Portland over the summer. Had the rioters permanently "occupied" the Capitol it could have become something really scary across the country. It could have become a military issue. Trump was very clever aligning with the police/military for 4 years prior to this stunt. I am more than confident there were a large percentage of military that would have "joined" his coup.

****ing crazy times man...

Last night I was Googling "comparisons between the riot in DC and Portland" and I had a few hits. I will share an article now for the sake of full disclosure and the pursuit of ultimate truth.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/01/...ol-washington/





Not intended to trigger anyone, just a BLM protester's perspective. They feel the Trump rioters got off very easy. It's important to remember that everybody has a different perspective, and even a crazed Portland occupier could feel justified in their actions. Fairness w/ law enforcement is important for a free and fair society.

There are far more similarities than differences between Portland and DC. In Portland they tried to burn down the federal courthouse with people inside (on numerous occasions). The vast and overwhelming majority of insurrectionists in both events were white.

The biggest difference was that there was MORE police restraint in Portland than DC. DC was a one time event. The actions in DC occurred with political figures in the building whereas in Portland it was only cops.