Biden

[Kung Wu]

Ya-ya-ya. Yada-Yada

He is certainly arrogant, and stupid (imo), but not corrupt, and getting rich off the system. I just wish he was smarter about what he says, and when he says it, but I realize that’s part of his attraction to average, conservative, middle class voters. They like to see him stick it to the “Man”. However, it may put himself in legal trouble, and not get him the “independent” voters he needs from the suburbs for him to win the election.

You can't yada yada me! I yada yada you!!

[Shockm]

You can't yada yada me! I yada yada you!!

I think you misunderstood my yada's, but I recognize your right to yada yada back. He says he de-classified everything, and others say he didn't (legally), and it's been repeated thousands of times (yada-yada). Everything against him, is to make him look bad, and he does nothing to help himself look better. Everyone's mind is already made up on both sides. We will see, but I wouldn't doubt that his arrogance/stupidity sees him behind bars for at least a short amount of time, at some point. But with his money, it's less likely than you or I if we got ourselves in hot water.

[Atxshoxfan]

I wish I was stupid enough to build an empire and president over a country only to make it oil independent, reduce unemployment to a record low, grow the economy to one of the best in our nations history, and hold back all of our adversaries from any attacks on us or our allies. I mean, it's amazing how such a stupid dude could do all of those things, especially while being constantly attacked by the media and the socialist on the left.

[wufan]

I wish I was stupid enough to build an empire and president over a country only to make it oil independent, reduce unemployment to a record low, grow the economy to one of the best in our nations history, and hold back all of our adversaries from any attacks on us or our allies. I mean, it's amazing how such a stupid dude could do all of those things, especially while being constantly attacked by the media and the socialist on the left.

Two things can be true. What about the classified documents did Trump do that was smart?

[Kung Wu]

Two things can be true. What about the classified documents did Trump do that was smart?

Declassify them.

[Atxshoxfan]

Two things can be true. What about the classified documents did Trump do that was smart?

According to courts, it was legal. Bill Clinton was cleared for same thing. Even Joe got to take them home as a senator and vice president, without consequences. Then of course there was Hillary as secretary of state. "No reasonable prosecutor would press charges", was Cohen's response to that. So, basically, nothing has indicated that it was stupid.

[wufan]

Declassify them.

Did he though? I mean, that would have been smart, but I’ve only seen evidence that that might be his defense. Is there evidence that he declassified them that I might have missed?

[wufan]

According to courts, it was legal. Bill Clinton was cleared for same thing. Even Joe got to take them home as a senator and vice president, without consequences. Then of course there was Hillary as secretary of state. "No reasonable prosecutor would press charges", was Cohen's response to that. So, basically, nothing has indicated that it was stupid.

What about it was smart?

[Atxshoxfan]

What about it was smart?

My response was to someone saying it was stupid of trump to take classified documents. Nothing about it being smart.

Was it smart or stupid for you to put your pocket change in a drawer? Is it smart or stupid to sit in your car when you eat? Obviously everything doesn't fall into just those two options.

[wufan]

My response was to someone saying it was stupid of trump to take classified documents. Nothing about it being smart.

Was it smart or stupid for you to put your pocket change in a drawer? Is it smart or stupid to sit in your car when you eat? Obviously everything doesn't fall into just those two options.

So it wasn’t stupid nor smart? It just kinda happened? Like it was a freak accident, or an intentional nonchalant act?

[Atxshoxfan]

So it wasn’t stupid nor smart? It just kinda happened?

You really think everything you do has to be either smart or stupid?
Here is something stupid for you. Anyone who thinks trump packed all of his stuff personally into boxes, Well that is stupid to believe.

Then when Trump let the FBI come to Mara Lago and search for docs the first time, he was told to put additional locks on the door, but the FBI took nothing, that time. And trump complied by installing additional locks. The next time they came was a made for tv production of the FBI's raid on Mara Lago.

But hey. There are some uninformed people who believe Trump packed it all up and was hiding it away. MSNBC, CNN, CNBC and other democrat operatives have sold it in that manner while giving Hillary and Joe passes for more aggregious behaviors.

[wufan]

You really think everything you do has to be either smart or stupid?
Here is something stupid for you. Anyone who thinks trump packed all of his stuff personally into boxes, Well that is stupid to believe.

Then when Trump let the FBI come to Mara Lago and search for docs the first time, he was told to put additional locks on the door, but the FBI took nothing, that time. And trump complied by installing additional locks. The next time they came was a made for tv production of the FBI's raid on Mara Lago.

But hey. There are some uninformed people who believe Trump packed it all up and was hiding it away. MSNBC, CNN, CNBC and other democrat operatives have sold it in that manner while giving Hillary and Joe passes for more aggregious behaviors.

I don’t know who you’re referencing. Trump did some good things and some bad things in my mind. I find that not being able to tell the difference between what is good and was is bad is stupid.

[Atxshoxfan]

I don’t know who you’re referencing. Trump did some good things and some bad things in my mind. I find that not being able to tell the difference between what is good and was is bad is stupid.

After the disagreement starts with a statement that Trump was stupid for taking the docs, you have twisted your way to an argument of right or wrong. Totally different argument.

But I believe it is neither stupid or smart. It may be wrong, but if so, why did Hillary and Joe get by with far worse infractions with no consequences?

Based on your thought processes on this argument, I will take your attempted insult as a compliment. Thank you.

My original post on this subject was" I wish I was so stupid as Trump" and it still stands.

[Shockm]

So it wasn’t stupid nor smart? It just kinda happened? Like it was a freak accident, or an intentional nonchalant act?

Here's something that wasn't smart. Trump stipulated that he had no remaining classified papers in his possession prior to the Mara Lago raid. While the raid imo, was more force than necessary, and showed a two tier system compared to Biden, Clinton, and others, this was an unforced error by Trump, and that he wasn't negotiating in good faith. It gave them the excuse they wanted and exposed Trump to illegal court difficulties. Trump said they were de-classified, and his opponents says they weren't. Many Judges and Juries that aren't political hacks won't take kindly to being lied to, if that is proved.

Former President Trump's lawyer certified in June that no classified material remains at Mar-a-Lago
FBI agents seized records that were marked as classified during their raid, according to released documents.

Former President Trump's lawyer certified in a June letter that no classified material was still at Mar-a-Lago, two sources with knowledge of the investigation tell Fox News.

Agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation executed a search warrant on the Florida estate of former President Donald Trump on Monday and seized items, which include 11 sets of material that are listed as classified.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/for...mains-mar-lago

[Atxshoxfan]

So Trump's lawyers certified that there were no more classified docs. Shouldn't his lawyers be accountable.? Oh that's right they are not running for president.

Much like the FBI who certified that the Steele dossier had been verified, when in fact they knew it was fabricated and false. That is the same FBI office that conducted the raid on Mara Lago. Who also didn't allow Trump's attorneys inside Mara Lago while they conducted the search.

Sometimes you have to read between the lines.

When it comes to the FBI, CIA, DOJ, IRS, DHS, CDC and other federal government agencies, I believe nothing. Trump has proven time and again that there was and still is a deep state that controls our lives and takes aim at anyone who threatens their agendas. Where as they like Uncle Joe because he is their puppet and the democrat party has a lot of indoctrinated sheep. But some of the darker sheep are seeing the light and straying off. No problem, open the borders up Joe......Joe says "OK".