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  • #61
    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

    The left will never accept any restrictions on abortion and the right will never accept infringement on 2A - so this is a fantasy talk.
    I’m just saying in our little imaginary republic of two, is this a deal you’d make? Would we be any less free?

    I like my chances of protecting my home with a SxS 12 gauge (in fact this is what a home invader would face at BOBB’s house). I like my chances of picking off jackbooted invaders with a 30-06.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by shoxplode View Post

      There are approximately 131,000 public schools in this country and you want TWO soldiers at every one.
      At this point yes 100%. These type of atrocities are the worst of the worst. Innocent children need protection. It's happened way too many times and a counter to stop it is way overdue. If we can send 40 billion to Ukraine and billions elsewhere around the globe...we can afford to protect our kids. Use retired military, the national guard, posse comitatus...whatever means available.

      Originally posted by shoxplode View Post
      when is the military gonna find the time to fight China and Russia?
      I hear ya...but first comes first. Our kids! ]


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      • #63
        Originally posted by BOBB View Post
        I’m just saying in our little imaginary republic of two, is this a deal you’d make? Would we be any less free?

        I like my chances of protecting my home with a SxS 12 gauge (in fact this is what a home invader would face at BOBB’s house). I like my chances of picking off jackbooted invaders with a 30-06.
        If we are talking imaginary world.

        1. I would accept total ban on all firearms. With anybody committing a crime with one would be death penalty.

        2. Ban on all abortions except for when the mother life at risk. Rape is not an excuse for an abortion - why punish the baby for the sin of the baby father. Castrate the father.

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        • #64
          Criminals aren’t scared anymore because anything a police officer does in a split second they get crucified and microscoped for. Criminals also rarely go to jail now and when they do, they get luxuries a lot of homeowners don’t get.

          I wonder why Singapore has the lowest crime rate in the world?

          Not applying this to the specific incidents being referenced, but just to where this conversation is leading to.

          Guns aren’t going away and people break laws all of the time so making laws with them isn’t gonna stop somebody from obtaining one and shooting up a place if they wanted to. The current law system, the society of most kids growing up with little discipline and lack of two parents are the root causes of a lot of this. That’s the only thing that you can try and fix. Harsher gun laws won’t do ****. School security would also help but I’m not sure how realistic that is.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

            If we are talking imaginary world.

            1. I would accept total ban on all firearms. With anybody committing a crime with one would be death penalty.

            2. Ban on all abortions except for when the mother life at risk. Rape is not an excuse for an abortion - why punish the baby for the sin of the baby father. Castrate the father.
            That’s further than I would want to go on either direction, but is probably swallow hard and go with it.
            Last edited by BOBB; May 26, 2022, 03:07 PM.
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            • #66
              The details just get worse and worse. Now they are finding out that the door was unlocked and the SRO did not try to intervene.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                I’d trade you right now. Abortion only legal in rape and incest and only single action revolvers, break action shotguns, lever and bolt action rifles. No open, concealed carry. No stand your ground, only castle doctrine.

                We’d save a lot of lives.
                Lol. That is a really narrow “I live in suburbia with little life experience” point of view.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by shock View Post

                  Lol. That is a really narrow “I live in suburbia with little life experience” point of view.
                  You live up in the bush, no? You’re telling me you couldn’t deal with anything that comes your way with a lever gun?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                    The details just get worse and worse. Now they are finding out that the door was unlocked and the SRO did not try to intervene.
                    Let’s see that “all hat no cattle” McCraw spin it.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                      The details just get worse and worse. Now they are finding out that the door was unlocked and the SRO did not try to intervene.
                      Was just going to post about this.

                      Dude just WALKED in. SRO was not there at the time (perhaps a nothingburger). Took law enforcement 40 EFFING-MINUTES to go in and end the dude. What in the every-living fark? I mean really... WTF!

                      The law enforcement community in the Uvalde area might as well just go ahead and quit, sell their houses, and move somewhere else FAR away. They will be persona non grata in the area for the remainder of their lives. If this is all true.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                        Let’s see that “all hat no cattle” McCraw spin it.
                        Just seeing the quotes from that guy right now. Making a strong case for being the modern day equivalent to Baghdad Bob.

                        A HUGE blindspot for US law enforcement is the ability to admit wrong/poor decisions/behavior, or to separate themselves from bad seeds. It is almost like a cult, socially.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post

                          Just seeing the quotes from that guy right now. Making a strong case for being the modern day equivalent to Baghdad Bob.

                          A HUGE blindspot for US law enforcement is the ability to admit wrong/poor decisions/behavior, or to separate themselves from bad seeds. It is almost like a cult, socially.
                          And that's where the poor public perception comes from. Fewer people would have negative or neutral views of police if they held people accountable and admitted when they ****ed up. It really is that simple.
                          Last edited by SubGod22; May 26, 2022, 04:42 PM.
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                          • #73
                            Guess the law enforcement community in Uvalde is deflecting this story by saying they aren't sure yet what the timeline was.

                            They have the 911 call informing them of the situation, and they have the radio traffic indicating the threat is neutralized. Grab your smartphone, open the calculator app, and knock yourselves out.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                              And that's where the poor public perception comes from. Fewer people would have negative or neutral views of police if the held people accountable and admitted when they ****ed up. It really is that simple.
                              I think the American people are pretty forgiving when someone owns up and says “Hey, we fubared this and we’re going to tell you how and how well fix it.” Not when they lie and obfuscate
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                                But they didn't give two shits about him. Floyd is not hero or anything of that nature, but he was subdued and they continued to suppress his ability to breathe which didn't help Mr. Floyd at all. Preventing a man from breathing as he tells you he can't breathe is reprehensible. Especially from those who feel entitled to respect for their "courage and bravery" as they "protect and serve" their communities. I love how so many will defend police, even passively, when they're clearly in the wrong. It's why police get away with being shitty way more than they should and lack a lot of accountability for their actions.
                                You’re mistake is that your statement says that most policemen are just like Chauvin. Chauvin was definitely in the wrong.

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