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  • I assume that the variants are the viruses' response to vaccinated individuals

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    • Sturgis will 100% be a cause for covid spread. The story will come out prior to the event and contain a lot of words like, "May", 'could', 'possibly", and quote experts who 'fear it could' and or even 'lead to' bad and diastrous things among the large portion of unvaccinated flag American flag waving citizens. A large group of ignorant people will read it, and think that the event and outbreak already occurred, not realizing they are being fed complete fear porn.

      That's my biggest issue. We report thepossible mayhem and negatives, even when a large portion of the time nothing bad happens. These articles are more common than the real news stories.
      "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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      • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
        I assume that the variants are the viruses' response to vaccinated individuals
        Nah, they are the result of random mutation and crossover defects. And 99.999% of the time a mutation results in junk genetics and are less fit than the parent.
        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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        • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
          I assume that the variants are the viruses' response to vaccinated individuals
          No. It’s normal and would happen regardless.
          Livin the dream

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          • Originally posted by wufan View Post

            Certainly PSAs aren’t as bad, but some of the US PSAs have been counterfactual over the last few decades (in general, not Covid).

            In some areas of Australia, we hey are knocking on doors to make sure folks aren’t breaking lockdown, and a small military force has been sent in to assist with the enforcement.
            I would have no problem with the government or perhaps, private entities, putting out graphic PSA’s showing some of the consequences. Last week, I saw a lady being interviewed who was just leaving the hospital after having been in the ICU for an extended period of time. She had been on a ventilator, and other treatments but had survived. She said, she wished she had gotten the vaccine earlier and taken it more seriously.

            Yes, the knocking on doors isn’t right, and I didn’t see that in the article piece. I don’t plan on wearing a mask, but will continue to listen to my doctor regarding the best preventions and treatments.

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            • Originally posted by wufan View Post

              There’s no correlation between mask mandates and transmission rates.
              Clever...



              Masks work, if they didn't they wouldn't be utilized in healthcare. Proper application is necessary, and the closer towards an N95 rating, the more scenarios you are protected in. Even a hand over the mouth offers some measure of protection.

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              • Originally posted by wufan View Post

                There is no difference in transmission rates between masked and unmasked areas.
                Thanks for expounding.

                Your comment is total bullshit.

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                • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                  Can you at least make a slight attempt to be honest and admit that this vaccinated vs non-vaccinated thing isn't political? You continuing to spew that same tired propaganda that's continually pushed by liberal media is tiresome and 100% dishonest.
                  Any correlation to what I say and what is "pushed by the liberal media" is coincidental. I am totally independent in my opinions on the pandemic w/ respect to politics. My comments/beliefs/opinions are based on the science... the real science.

                  An interesting side note though on probably why some of the trolls in this thread keep calling me a liberal: the liberal media has been FAR AND AWAY more accurate with their reporting on the pandemic than the conservative media and that's not an accident.

                  Trump started out pretty solid w/ the pandemic. Then late spring he had a meeting w/ his team and it went something like this:

                  Trump: Okay, I'm done with this ****ing Chinese flu. I have an election coming up, and if we don't get past this issue, it's going to haunt me all the way until November, 3rd. From here on out we are going to minimize the pandemic; we aren't going to talk about it any longer.

                  FOX: But how are we going to spin the deaths and the infections... they're increasing even in the summer. Shouldn't we continue pushing social distancing, masking, etc? The CDC says that if we don't get the infections down we could have a very nasty winter.

                  Trump: We're not only going to NOT talk about social distancing and masking, we're going to call such practices an attack on our freedom and a subversive attempt by the Democrats to steal our GOD-GIVEN rights.

                  FOX: BRILLIANT!!!

                  Trump: Okay, now let's start organizing some rallies. Make 'em indoor too. The pandemic as far as I'm concerned, is over.





                  We were at 100k dead at this point.

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                  • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                    I assume that the variants are the viruses' response to vaccinated individuals
                    That's partially correct. Variants mostly occur in the infected who have the longest bouts w/ the disease - particularly those w/ comprised immune systems.

                    BUT, the vaccines WILL encourage the variants to evolve into something that eventually evades the vaccines altogether. This is why we need to be getting shots in arms as fast as possible. A partial campaign is going to lessen our chance of returning to normal "quickly".

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                    • I went to the store today and was shocked to see so many masks on. I felt like a Covidiot.

                      FYI: 99% of the African-Americans I came across had their masks on. I'd say about 30% of the whites work masks.

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                      • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                        I went to the store today and was shocked to see so many masks on. I felt like a Covidiot.

                        FYI: 99% of the African-Americans I came across had their masks on. I'd say about 30% of the whites work masks.
                        That's because a plurality of African-Americans (dumbest description ever) refuse to get vaccinated. Or Covidiots to you.

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                        • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

                          That's because a plurality of African-Americans (dumbest description ever) refuse to get vaccinated. Or Covidiots to you.
                          I'm not certain whether or not these people had been vaccinated. They were not lower class. Categorizing by class captures a better share of the unvaccinated than does race. I would also not call the unvaccinated Covidiot... not without further investigation. You see, Covidiots don't believe in the pandemic. They minimize and question every aspect of science related to the pandemic because... that's what Trump did. All these black folk were masked up tight. They are taking it seriously. If they aren't vaccinated, I would be glad to tranq them and poke their arm. I ASSURE you they wouldn't start screeching about MuH LiBuRtY.

                          There were anti-vaxxers before there was Trump. But Trump created the Covidiots and some became anti-vax just because it was yet another way to express their Covidiocy...

                          These... are exceptional examples of Covidiots:

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                          • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

                            Clever...



                            Masks work, if they didn't they wouldn't be utilized in healthcare. Proper application is necessary, and the closer towards an N95 rating, the more scenarios you are protected in. Even a hand over the mouth offers some measure of protection.
                            They were used before Covid and will be used for the foreseeable future. That has nothing to do with their Covid effectiveness, as they are effective for other things.

                            Im not talking about N95s. I’m talking about the requisite coverings that are required. Those are ineffective. Yes, they do offer some level of decrease in viral expulsion, viral inhalation, but it is ineffective on an individual level as it doesn’t hit a high enough threshold to prevent infection.
                            Livin the dream

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                            • Wonder if Whipple will push a mask mandate forward this week?

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                              • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

                                That's because a plurality of African-Americans (dumbest description ever) refuse to get vaccinated. Or Covidiots to you.
                                You don’t actually believe his 99% nonsense do you?

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