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We all knew what was going on but it’s more sobering when it comes directly from a public health official from a major city.
Think this is effecting the mortality rate a tad? Any comment on the matter, Cold?Deuces Valley.
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https://www.technologyreview.com/202...ing-wrong-way/
If SARS-CoV-2 is airborne, it’s far from the only disease. Measles is notorious for being able to last in the air for up to two hours. Tuberculosis, though a bacterium, can be airborne for six hours, and Brosseau suggests that coronavirus superspreaders (people who seem to eject a larger amount of the virus than others) disseminate the virus in patterns that recall the infectiousness of tuberculosis.
The evidence that this type of transmission is happening with SARS-CoV-2 arguably already exists. Several big studies point to airborne transmission of the virus as a major route for the spread of covid-19. Other studies have suggested the virus can remain in aerosolized droplets for hours. One new study led by Roy and his team at Tulane shows that infectious aerosolized particles of SARS-CoV-2 could actually linger in the air for up to 16 hours, and maintain infectivity much longer than MERS and SARS-CoV-1 (the other big coronaviruses to emerge this century).Roy would like to see aggressive mandates on strict mask use for anyone leaving home. “This virus sheds like crazy,” he says. “Masking can do an incredible amount in breaking transmission. I think anything that can promote the use of masking, to stop the production of aerosols in the environment, would be helpful.”
Brosseau, however, says that though masks can limit the spread of larger particles, they are less helpful for smaller ones, especially if they fit only loosely. “I wish we would stop relying on the idea that face coverings are going to solve everything and help flatten the curve,” she says. “It’s magical thinking—it’s not going to happen.” For masks to really make a difference, they would need to be worn all the time, even around family.
Brosseau does believe the evidence is trending toward the conclusion that airborne transmission is “the primary and possibly most important mode of transmission for SARS-CoV-2.” She says, “I think the amount of time and effort devoted to sanitizing every single surface over and over and over again has been a huge waste of time. We don’t need to worry so much about cleaning every single surface we touch.” Instead, the focus should be on other factors, like where we spend our time.Good stuff!Airborne transmission doesn’t necessarily mean these places must stay closed (although that would be ideal). But wiping down surfaces with disinfectant, and having everyone wear masks, won’t be enough. To safely reopen, these spots will not just need to reduce the number of people allowed inside at any given moment; they will also need to reduce the amount of time those people spend there. Increasing social distancing beyond six feet would also help keep people safer.
Ventilation needs to be a higher priority too. This is going to be a big problem for older buildings that usually have worse ventilation systems, and areas with a lot of those might need to remain closed for much longer. The impact of asymptomatic spread (transmission by people who don’t feel ill) and superspreaders only compounds the problem even further. But research conducted by the US Department of Homeland Security has shown that in the presence of UV light, aerosolized particles of the size the Tulane researchers studied would disappear in less than a minute. A number of businesses have begun deploying UV-armed robots to disinfect hospital rooms, shopping malls, stores, public transit stations, and more.
More UV robots!
Get those doors open in buildings!
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Thought so.Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
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She's doing very well, thanks. Quarantine not as good. No 5 grandkid played 2 games at Hutch monday, and a game at Pratt tuesday. Grandkid 6 played at Pratt Wednesday and 2 games at Goddard Friday, and so far, two today at Goddard. Grandkid 4 had two at Hutch today. I'm stuck at home with grandma trying to watch over the internetOriginally posted by wichshock65 View PostComment
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https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/213216...-herd-immunity
I've been worried about this, particularly with the asymptomatic infected. Dr. Fauci speaks on being dubious about the reliance on Covid-19 antibodies as other types of Coronavirus antibodies have proven to be quite temporary. The word on the street now is: the worse you get it, the better antibodies you will have, but don't expect them to last beyond 6mos. to a year.“Wait. I can catch Covid twice?” my 50-year-old patient asked in disbelief. It was the beginning of July, and he had just tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, for a second time — three months after a previous infection.
While there’s still much we don’t understand about immunity to this new illness, a small but growing number of cases like his suggest the answer is “yes.”
Covid-19 may also be much worse the second time around. During his first infection, my patient experienced a mild cough and sore throat. His second infection, in contrast, was marked by a high fever, shortness of breath, and hypoxia, resulting in multiple trips to the hospital.
Recent reports and conversations with physician colleagues suggest my patient is not alone. Two patients in New Jersey, for instance, appear to have contracted Covid-19 a second time almost two months after fully recovering from their first infection.
It is possible, but unlikely, that my patient had a single infection that lasted three months. Some Covid-19 patients (now dubbed “long haulers”) do appear to suffer persistent infections and symptoms.
My personal guidance on the issue remains the same: Take reasonable precautions and do not get the bug. :(
P.S. Reasonable precautions would not be takin' the wife and kids to Sizzler and using hand sanitizer. STAY OUT of small, enclosed spaces filled with people that aren't in your family.
P.P.S. Get the best mask you can find if you're going into the supermarket and don't dawdle.
P.P.P.S Pray for a solid vaccine (likely bi-annual) with little side effects. Some of the "good ones" they have now give you a fever and all sorts of ****. *sigh*
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This post is pure drivel and fear mongering.Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Posthttps://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/213216...-herd-immunity
I've been worried about this, particularly with the asymptomatic infected. Dr. Fauci speaks on being dubious about the reliance on Covid-19 antibodies as other types of Coronavirus antibodies have proven to be quite temporary. The word on the street now is: the worse you get it, the better antibodies you will have, but don't expect them to last beyond 6mos. to a year.
My personal guidance on the issue remains the same: Take reasonable precautions and do not get the bug. :(
P.S. Reasonable precautions would not be takin' the wife and kids to Sizzler and using hand sanitizer. STAY OUT of small, enclosed spaces filled with people that aren't in your family.
P.P.S. Get the best mask you can find if you're going into the supermarket and don't dawdle.
P.P.P.S Pray for a solid vaccine (likely bi-annual) with little side effects. Some of the "good ones" they have now give you a fever and all sorts of ****. *sigh*
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“When you look at the history of coronaviruses — the common coronaviruses that cause the common cold — the reports in the literature are that the durability of immunity that’s protective ranges from three to six months to almost always less than a year,” he said last month. “That’s not a lot of durability and protection.” - Dr. FauciOriginally posted by wufan View Post
You're going to overrule the good doctor I presume?
For what it's worth, he has said this:
Unfortunately, if you look at the issue logically, and take into account what we know so far - Dr. Fauci himself stating that Coronavirus protective antibodies are likely short-lived - one should draw the conclusion that some cases of reinfection are a possibility if not a certainty depending on the level of circulating infections in the community.Fauci, the director of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added that reports of recovered Covid-19 patients being reinfected with the virus are probably inaccurate. He said it’s more likely that the test used to detect Covid-19 probably picked up fragments of the virus still in the recovered patient’s body, but they probably hadn’t been reinfected.
“There are no documented cases where people got better and actually got sick again in the sense of virus replicating,” he said. “I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a rare case of an individual who went into remission and relapsed. ... But Francis, I can say with confidence, that it is very unlikely if it’s a common phenomenon.”
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This is not surprising. We all know this is going on. Some of us choose to look at this whole thing logically and some of us like the fear mongering and freak out drama. No way the death rate is as high as they report also no way the positive test “spike” is as bad as is being reported. The data is being manipulated folks.Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
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Wait, you’re saying an Elton John YouTube clip isn’t a worthy, valid response?Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View PostDeuces Valley.
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