WSU Hosts Northern Iowa - Friday, Oct 26th - Buy 1, Get 1 Free

[JayJ79]

The reason for changing the time was more because many volleyball fans are also football fans. You can be upset about it if you like, but I'd be surprised if UNI would have been able to make such changes without first getting approval from the visiting team.

[1972Shocker]

So WSU would never adjust the start time of a volleyball match in order to accomodate a mens basketball game?

I'm not sure the issue has ever presented itself. We have tried to combine a VB match with Shocker Madness but that didn't really work very well.

We do have one date where both the MBB team and VB team are playing on the same date. As far as I can tell their was no adjustment. The MBB team plays Howard at 2:00 pm and the VB team plays Drake at the normal 7:00 pm time on Saturday, November 17th.

I would be very surprised if they moved the Drake VB match up to say 5:00 pm. Not sure we have a real big MBB to VB crossover. Actually, I prefer this setup as its scheduled. Attend the MBB game, head home or out for a nice liesurely dinner, then back to the Arena for the VB match. Maybe another 1,000 fans (at most) would do the same. I don't think moving the VB match up would impact this number much at all.

Obviously, the MBB and VB matches can not be scheduled simultaneously. Fortunately, I don't think this has ever been an issue to date.

[JayJ79]

On the date in question, the football game was originally scheduled for a 4 p.m. kickoff, but was moved to 6 p.m. to accomodate television coverage. So they changed the volleyball match time as best they could. Don't know why I'm bothering to explain, as such explanations are as pointless as presidential debates.

[WuDrWu]

The reason for changing the time was more because many volleyball fans are also football fans. You can be upset about it if you like, but I'd be surprised if UNI would have been able to make such changes without first getting approval from the visiting team.

You may be correct. I'll go to the source and let you know factually.

[1972Shocker]

Not sure if that time change threw our VB team off or not. I don't remember Lambo really complaining about it but maybe he did. After all it put both teams out of their normal routine.

If WSU had a football team I could see them trying to do the same thing if such a conflict occurred in order to accomodate as many dual fans as possible.

[SpanglerFan316]

A bit off-topic but this post on volleytalk is interesting. http://volleytalk.proboards.com/inde...=918776&page=3

At-Large bids as of 10/22 (Taking out highest ranked team in each conference as auto-bid winner and counting down strictly along RPI lines)

1. Nebraska 3
2. UCLA 5
3. Oregon 6
4. Kansas 8
5. Minnesota 9
6. Washington 11
7. Kansas State 12
8. USC 14
9. Tennessee 16
10. Miami 17
11. San Diego 19
12. Kentucky 20
13. Oklahoma 21
14. Ohio State 22
15. Purdue 23
16. North Carolina 24
17. Arkansas 25
18. Michigan 26
19. Texas A&M 27
20. NC State 28
21. Pepperdine 29
22. St. Mary's 31
23. Illinois 32
24. Marquette 33
25. Oregon State 35
26. Wichita State 36
27. Iowa State 37
28. Notre Dame 40
29. Cal 41
30. Northwestern 42
31. Santa Clara 43
32. Michigan State 44
33. Arizona 45

(some of these teams will have issues with finishing with a winning record: St. Mary's, Illinois and Cal;)

Next 4: Northern Iowa, Az State, Mizzou, Georgia Tech

If this is close to correct, then UNI has more to gain playing in Koch Arena than does WSU.

ADDED: http://volleytalk.proboards.com/inde...y&thread=46523 has the same post.

[1972Shocker]

We weren't really on topic anyway. Hard to believe that the MVC would not get at least 2 teams in the tournament. They probably deserve 3. This is where the weak non-con schedules of some of our MVC sisters may be coming back to bite us in the rear end. Did Creighton get hurt that badly by the loss to SIU on the road?

However, your point is well-taken. This match has some very big ramifications for post-season play opportunities.

[WuDrWu]

Pretty sure the reason you don't see Creighton is because they're eliminated from at large due to the auto bid assumed for them. They have a high 20s RPI and are a dead lock to get in the tourney as of today. Same reason you don't see Texas listed.

[JayJ79]

Pretty sure the reason you don't see Creighton is because they're eliminated from at large due to the auto bid assumed for them. They have a high 20s RPI and are a dead lock to get in the tourney as of today. Same reason you don't see Texas listed.

whoever put together that list took the highest rated team (according to RPI) in each conference as the defacto "autobid" team, and thus didn't include them in the list of at-larges.

[1972Shocker]

Pretty sure the reason you don't see Creighton is because they're eliminated from at large due to the auto bid assumed for them. They have a high 20s RPI and are a dead lock to get in the tourney as of today. Same reason you don't see Texas listed.

My bad I clearly didn't read that close enough. Thanks Doc.

[WuDrWu]

No bad at all.....I wouldn't have even mentioned it, but I didn't want you struggling with it. :)

[SpanglerFan316]

I believe that CU, UNI and WSU will all make the tourney. CU is #34, WSU is #36 and UNI is #46 in the latest RPI.
CU gets to play (RPI) #36 and #46.
UNI gets to play #34 and #36.
WSU gets to play #34 and #46.
One way to improve one's RPI ranking is to play teams with good RPIs. I think all three teams will have good enough RPIs to get into the dance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2012WVBrpi1.html

[SpanglerFan316]

Fri, Oct 26	UNI #46	-	-	Wichita	7 p.m.
Sat, Oct 27	Bradley #234	-	-	Wichita	7 p.m.
Fri, Nov 02	Indiana State #286	-	-	at Terre Haute, Ind.	6 p.m.
Sat, Nov 03	Illinois State #99	-	-	at Normal, Ill.	7:05 p.m.
Fri, Nov 09	Missouri State #109	-	-	Wichita	7 p.m.
Fri, Nov 16	Creighton #34	-	-	Wichita	7 p.m.
Sat, Nov 17	Drake #246	-	-	Wichita	7 p.m.

My "gosh" the Valley has some terrible teams in WVB. Can we make some trades with another conference?

[JayJ79]

I believe that CU, UNI and WSU will all make the tourney. CU is #34, WSU is #36 and UNI is #46 in the latest RPI.
CU gets to play (RPI) #36 and #46.
UNI gets to play #34 and #36.
WSU gets to play #34 and #46.
One way to improve one's RPI ranking is to play teams with good RPIs. I think all three teams will have good enough RPIs to get into the dance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2012WVBrpi1.html

That'd be nice. Though it could change depending on how the rest of the season (and the conference tourney) turns out. If someone other than those three wins the autobid, I think it might knock out one aspiring team. Or other "upsets" could knock someone out.

[SpanglerFan316]

Actually some of the teams ranked higher than UNI may not qualify for tthe tourney. Illinois is 10-10, as is Cal. Arizona and Arizona State should pick up losses against Stanford and Cal. If one of them (ASU, UA, Oregon State, Cal) plays Washington, Stanford, Oregon, USC or UCLA, I think you can chalk up a loss. I don't know the Pac 12 schedule but some of those teams will probably finish at or under 0.500 and free up a spot for UNI.