Eric Hamilton '14 pf 6-8 is a Shocker!

[WstateU]

Bend it like Stretch Armstrong...

[Jhook89]

If Bush can bulk up to at least 245-250 by the time the season starts I'll feel much better about our player rotation at the 5. Much of my questioning him possibly redshirting or not is due to his body. How thin many of the reports say he is (220-230) had me worried he might have some issues holding his own down low. I mean Baker is almost 220 and he is 9" shorter. Man I am ready for the season to start!!

[1979Shocker]

If Bush can bulk up to at least 245-250 by the time the season starts I'll feel much better about our player rotation at the 5. Much of my questioning him possibly redshirting or not is due to his body. How thin many of the reports say he is (220-230) had me worried he might have some issues holding his own down low. I mean Baker is almost 220 and he is 9" shorter. Man I am ready for the season to start!!

And here I thought people were saying he should redshirt on account of his being raw.

[Jhook89]

And here I thought people were saying he should redshirt on account of his being raw.

Correct. People are saying it. I'm saying it could be a good thing for him to redshirt. lol in fact part of the quote you quoted me saying said, "Much of my questioning him possibly redshirting or not is due to his body." I still think it could be a good idea if some of the other big men step up. I also think if he gets to WSU weighing 245 the chances of him redshirting go way down.

[WSUwatcher]

Well, hook, there's more to player development than just physique. If hulkness and development were all that mattered, Orukpe would never have needed to redshirt in juco on his way here, and would have been an early-departure lottery pick once at WSU. As we know, it didn't exactly work out that way.

We'll see what happens when everyone arrives and the players and coaches are finally able to work with each other, practice, and discuss the future, which is some time off yet.

[wu_shizzle]

Well, hook, there's more to player development than just physique. If hulkness and development were all that mattered, Orukpe would never have needed to redshirt in juco on his way here, and would have been an early-departure lottery pick once at WSU. As we know, it didn't exactly work out that way.

I don't know why this is confusing.

EO redshirted to save a year of eligibility, and he had to go the JuCo route because he couldn't get transcripts from Nigeria.

It had nothing to do "learning the game".

[Jhook89]

Well, hook, there's more to player development than just physique. If hulkness and development were all that mattered, Orukpe would never have needed to redshirt in juco on his way here, and would have been an early-departure lottery pick once at WSU. As we know, it didn't exactly work out that way.

We'll see what happens when everyone arrives and the players and coaches are finally able to work with each other, practice, and discuss the future, which is some time off yet.

Obviously there is more than just size. A whole lot more. Him putting on 20 lbs of muscle doesn't hurt him though. Especially the position he plays. Having to bang around with the giants down low. I would say adding the weight would give him a better chance to defend and hold his ground against these guys. Hell you could argue Colby only really played much last year because of his size alone. Lufile and DJ were much more skilled. At least offensively

[wufan]

Obviously there is more than just size. A whole lot more. Him putting on 20 lbs of muscle doesn't hurt him though. Especially the position he plays. Having to bang around with the giants down low. I would say adding the weight would give him a better chance to defend and hold his ground against these guys. Hell you could argue Colby only really played much last year because of his size alone. Lufile and DJ were much more skilled. At least offensively

I think Coleby had injury issues most of the year.

[Cdizzle]

I think Coleby had injury issues most of the year.

Agreed. Watching some game tapes, Coleby was much more active offensively early in the year. He was probably averaging 1.5 oops/game. Then he got turf toe, and I'm not sure he ever fully recovered. Kudos to him for sticking it out, not complaining, and continuing to give valuable minutes.

[Kung Wu]

Agreed. Watching some game tapes, Coleby was much more active offensively early in the year. He was probably averaging 1.5 oops/game. Then he got turf toe, and I'm not sure he ever fully recovered. Kudos to him for sticking it out, not complaining, and continuing to give valuable minutes.

I didn't know that.

[Cdizzle]

I didn't know that.

It wasn't very well publicized, and I'm not sure how bad it was, but Marshall commented on it a couple times right around the time Coleby's offense production went to nada.

[Kung Wu]

It wasn't very well publicized, and I'm not sure how bad it was, but Marshall made commented on it a couple times right around the time Coleby's offense production went to nada.

Man, I know I was a little down on Coleby after the season was over (not a hater but disappointed). At least there's a reason he didn't develop into the monster I thought he would. Makes sense now.

[im4wsu]

Coleby

Points per 40 miniutes

Non-conference 11.8
Conference 5.3
MVC & NCAA 7.2

[another shocker]

does hamilton have grade issues (prep school talk)? otherwise, i hope he doesn't redshirt.

[Dan]

the rumor mongers on this board like to talk about his grades and prep school, but it's totally unsubstantiated as far as I can tell.