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  • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
    Only way I see that is if he were picked in the second round as a draft-and-stash player (which is entirely within the realm of possibility). I think Markis has the opportunity to be a great to elite defender at the next level and is a great spot up shooter (61.2% eFG% in catch and shoot situations this season), which makes him very attractive to NBA teams.
    Where did you find that number? There are far too many months to the start of the season, and I could definitely find myself lost in a site with that data.

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    • Originally posted by ShockCrazy View Post
      Where did you find that number? There are far too many months to the start of the season, and I could definitely find myself lost in a site with that data.
      Synergy Sports. You can buy a subscription for $20/month to the NCAA Men's and Women's site. It's pricey, but I am a huge stats nerd and it's worth it to me.

      If you're looking for a more affordable site that doesn't have that much detail but still offers some good insights, hoop-math.com is another good site to look into. Think it's $15 for a year's subscription.
      "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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      • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
        If he can improve his %'s along with some weight gain, he would be a first round pick.
        I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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        • McDuffie Returns

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          • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
            Synergy Sports. You can buy a subscription for $20/month to the NCAA Men's and Women's site. It's pricey, but I am a huge stats nerd and it's worth it to me.

            If you're looking for a more affordable site that doesn't have that much detail but still offers some good insights, hoop-math.com is another good site to look into. Think it's $15 for a year's subscription.
            Ah it is Synergy... I was hopeful there was a less pricey option... It's been very very tempting before.

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            • Originally posted by gmoney View Post
              Correct link: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college...152089917.html
              The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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              • mcduffie really needs to improve his handles. that includes catching and finishing under/around the basket. nba defenders, yes, nba defenders, would make his life miserable, as it stands now. he needs to work hard on his hands/handles this summer, like, first and foremost.. gaining weight shouldn't be much of a problem, at his young age, but he must get his handles down.

                sidenote: speaking of gaining weight, strength- i hope austin reeves doesn't have to redshirt. he's a gamer with a hard nose.

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                • Originally posted by shocker43 View Post
                  Mcduffie's dad commented on a post on the Shocker Faithful facebook group and said that two NBA teams asked him to stay in the draft.
                  Which just goes to show that the interests of NBA teams don't align with the interests of college players, and sometimes are almost directly opposed. We see this all the time with young baseball players, too; it happens there even more because so many more players are involved in the MLB draft. It's to the credit of McDuffie, his parents, and whoever else is in his "inner circle" into which Topshock seems to believe he has an undisclosed insight, that they recognized what makes sense for him.

                  What does an NBA team care if a kid throws away his college career to make himself a candidate to be drafted and plunked into the D-League? They may or may not choose him when the time actually comes -- there are plenty of guys who were even invited to the combine, which MM was not, who won't get drafted; but it's of no consequence to the team one way or the other -- they've just expanded their options by one more guy. Big whoop. Meanwhile, the player is essentially forced to shut down his college education and scratch around for a contract somewhere.

                  It's hard for me to imagine that McDuffie's parents or Coach Hurley, to the extent he might be involved, would find that an appealing set of options, especially compared to coming back to a probable top ten team, continuing to develop, and improving his chances of moving up in the pecking order for the future.

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                  • Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
                    Which just goes to show that the interests of NBA teams don't align with the interests of college players, and sometimes are almost directly opposed. We see this all the time with young baseball players, too; it happens there even more because so many more players are involved in the MLB draft. It's to the credit of McDuffie, his parents, and whoever else is in his "inner circle" into which Topshock seems to believe he has an undisclosed insight, that they recognized what makes sense for him.

                    What does an NBA team care if a kid throws away his college career to make himself a candidate to be drafted and plunked into the D-League? They may or may not choose him when the time actually comes -- there are plenty of guys who were even invited to the combine, which MM was not, who won't get drafted; but it's of no consequence to the team one way or the other -- they've just expanded their options by one more guy. Big whoop. Meanwhile, the player is essentially forced to shut down his college education and scratch around for a contract somewhere.

                    It's hard for me to imagine that McDuffie's parents or Coach Hurley, to the extent he might be involved, would find that an appealing set of options, especially compared to coming back to a probable top ten team, continuing to develop, and improving his chances of moving up in the pecking order for the future.

                    I think this will be his year. Last year he was nott 100% most of the year with his early surgery. Maui will tell what he has now.

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                    • The good news is the recent NBA experience for MM could prove to be a plus as he learned more about improving both his strengths and weaknesses. From there, those that want to 'play for pay' with the pros someday, somewhere, will take their learnings and seek to work hard on improving their overall game and to be more consistent in that quest. Yes, I think MM will come out primed, able, and ready to help our Shocks have a banner Season. He is part of the tripod foundation of this team along with Shaq and LS to provide us with quality performances and team leadership IMO. I liked how he developed on the defensive end to assist Zach Brown to 'slow down to a mild roar' the key players of our foes. Next time we play a team such as Kentucky, look for MM as a developing Junior, to hit big shots and make defensive stops on a more consistent level than ever before. This will become contagious and then our Shocks will be a "handful" to defeat this Season.
                      Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                      • Seen that he's headed to Houston for Adidas Nation

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                        • McDuffie is gonna be a beast this year, I know it. Lots of attention on Shamet for good reason, but McDuffie is gonna do a bit of everything, and a lot of it.

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                          • Has anybody seen MM recently? Has he bulked up, at all? If anybody has seen a pickup game, how does he look?
                            "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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                            • Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
                              Has anybody seen MM recently? Has he bulked up, at all? If anybody has seen a pickup game, how does he look?
                              Have not seen the Shocks scrimmage this summer but ran into MM. Bulked up? I describe him as very, very basketball fit. I shook his hand and he told me his name. I had to laugh as I told him I knew Exactly who he is. He got a kick out of that. MM is a great young man with a positive attitude and he will only continue to get better on the basketball court as so many Shocker players do.
                              Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                              • Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
                                Has anybody seen MM recently? Has he bulked up, at all? If anybody has seen a pickup game, how does he look?
                                He made an appearance at the Ron Baker Basketball Camp a few weeks back. Find the camp's Facebook page. There is a post with 50 pictures and when you click through them, you will find 4 or 5 pictures where he is talking a photo with a camper. Still skinny but does look to have more bulk then before.

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