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  • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
    I think he is implying that throwing a 7-2, 275 lb body in with Johnson and Church would make an even more formidable front court for Valley teams to match up against. OTOH he did not point out that Bhullar only played in about 2/3rds of the Aggies games last year averaging 7.0 MPG in those games and averaging 2.7 PPG, 2.3 RPG and 0.5 blocks per game played.



    No question that size-wise he is a mis-match. However, in terms of skills, quickness and athleticism, etc. maybe not so much. Perhaps @Jtaylor is confident that Bhullar will blossom under the astute tutelage of Coach Lusk.

    I thought he might be saying that Bhullar might be able to help WSU. I'm not entirely sure that Church would play. From what I understand Alize doesnt necessarily have the highest BB IQ.

    Alize is an incredible player though

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    • Originally posted by moshock View Post
      I thought he might be saying that Bhullar might be able to help WSU. I'm not entirely sure that Church would play. From what I understand Alize doesnt necessarily have the highest BB IQ.

      Alize is an incredible player though
      church would definitely play some minutes for wichita state. he'd be slam dunking in uk face (if he had half a coach for it, like marshall).

      alize doesn't have the bb iq? he is not a selfish player. he's quite capable of passing up a shot for a better shot oppurtunity (to msu detriment, actually).

      if msu had a coach like, say, cuonzo martin, they would be possibly top-40 next year.. maybe better.. certainly capable of a march madness upset.

      lusk has the keys. we'll see what he delivers next year.

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      • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
        church would definitely play some minutes for wichita state. he'd be slam dunking in uk face (if he had half a coach for it, like marshall).

        alize doesn't have the bb iq? he is not a selfish player. he's quite capable of passing up a shot for a better shot oppurtunity (to msu detriment, actually).

        if msu had a coach like, say, cuonzo martin, they would be possibly top-40 next year.. maybe better.. certainly capable of a march madness upset.

        lusk has the keys. we'll see what he delivers next year.
        In your opinion - what current WSU player would Church play in front of ? All he can do is dunk and block shots. I just don't see it.

        I'm not saying anything about Alize other than he is a stud. I'm just repeating something I read on the MSU board last season. It could be a coach who can't relate to his players or ????

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        • Originally posted by moshock View Post
          In your opinion - what current WSU player would Church play in front of ? All he can do is dunk and block shots. I just don't see it.

          I'm not saying anything about Alize other than he is a stud. I'm just repeating something I read on the MSU board last season. It could be a coach who can't relate to his players or ????
          I think Alize and Church would be complimentary players to Kelly, Brown, and McDuffie. I would t say they are better, and I'm not certain they are as good, but they're in that ballpark.
          Livin the dream

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          • Originally posted by wufan View Post
            I think Alize and Church would be complimentary players to Kelly, Brown, and McDuffie. I would t say they are better, and I'm not certain they are as good, but they're in that ballpark.
            Maybe I'm not understanding your point but Church played the 5 at MSU. I don't think he is better than Shaq. His free throw shooting was very bad so I'm not sure he is better than Darryl or Rauno. He does block shots and dunk as good or better than our guys. His off ball defense was where he blocked all of his shots. His defense while playing on ball was not that effective (maybe because he was only 6'6).

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            • Originally posted by wufan View Post
              I think Alize and Church would be complimentary players to Kelly, Brown, and McDuffie. I would t say they are better, and I'm not certain they are as good, but they're in that ballpark.
              I would agree that they are those type of athletes and if those two were in 3G's system - who knows how good they could be.

              IMHO, 3G may be the best at turning athletes into complete basketball players. It's amazing to see the progress that his players make while they are at WSU. It doesn't happen at every D1 school.

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              • If we're expecting a big year from McDuffie, he better show some real improvement in the next 3 months. He's going to be facing similar competition that he saw in Houston most nights in the AAC. His performance at that camp makes him look like a 4-year player, which would not be a bad thing for the Shox.
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                • Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                  If we're expecting a big year from McDuffie, he better show some real improvement in the next 3 months. He's going to be facing similar competition that he saw in Houston most nights in the AAC. His performance at that camp makes him look like a 4-year player, which would not be a bad thing for the Shox.
                  Respectfully, I don't know what you expect. On a per-40 minute basis, his stats in Houston were mostly better (against better competition) than last season as a Shocker. Other than his 3-point shooting, I'd say these stats bode well for MM.

                  FG% 3-pt % FT% TR PF TP A TO BLK STL
                  Houston 0.429 0.143 0.833 9.8 2.4 23.7 1.6 1.6 0 5.7
                  WSU 0.458 0.355 0.819 8.9 3.1 18.1 2.7 2.2 0.5 1.8
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                    • Quick interview with MM.

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                      • Originally posted by wichshock65 View Post
                        Interview skills need some work, with around 23 "you knows" in a less than 1 minute interview.

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                        • Originally posted by Topshock View Post
                          Interview skills need some work, with around 23 "you knows" in a less than 1 minute interview.
                          LOL yeah I was thinking that too. You listen to all these kids though and it's the same thing. It's even worse when you listen to the ones being interviewed right after they're drafted in the NFL.

                          "You know?"
                          "You feel me?"
                          "Ya hear me?"
                          "Know what I'm sayin?"

                          Yes, I know what you are saying.

                          It was a cool interview though

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                          • CPP Top 100: #52 Markis McDuffie



                            Why they are here

                            When you think of the kind of players that have helped Wichita State rise to national prominence over the last couple of years, Markis McDuffie fits the mold to a tee.

                            Under-recruited coming out of high school playing for the legendary Bobby Hurley at St. Anthony’s in New Jersey, McDuffie has gone from a lanky, spot up shooter to an all-around threat and one of the better players in all of college basketball heading into his junior year.

                            The shooting ability is still there for McDuffie, but he now has the ability to take people off the dribble to create opportunites for himself closer to the basket and has even developed a bit of a low-post game, even though he rarely uses it.

                            McDuffie has also evolved into a solid defensive presence who is more than just a defender with long arms, which he was coming into Wichita State as a freshman. He has even improved as a rebounder, averaging almost six per game.

                            Role on this year’s team

                            Everyone on Wichita State’s roster knows their role, and McDuffie is no different. He’s not a true star, but he might be the closest thing the Shockers have to one and McDuffie has embraced that role.

                            McDuffie led the Shockers in scoring last season and could very well do the same again, but it is not a neccesity. Landry Shamet is a rising star who will most likely lead the Shockers in scoring this season, but again it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things.

                            As long as McDuffie maintains his averages from a year ago, he will continue to be one of the better players in college basketball. If he manages to improve upon his numbers from a year ago, we could be witnessing a star in the making.

                            College Season/ NBA Prospects

                            Unless McDuffie completely blows up this season, he seems like a sure-fire four year collegiate player.

                            While some of this goes into certain aspects of McDuffie’s game not being fully developed for the NBA yet, a lot of it has to do with the emphasis that McDuffie has put into getting a degree, which goes back to his days playing at St. Anthony’s.

                            There’s a strong chance that McDuffie will be able to carve out a niche in the NBA once he arrives, but expect two more years of McDuffie in the college ranks.

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                            • I'll take McDuff for 2 more years, we're gonna need him after all these seniors depart.

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                              • Thanks, Wich.

                                The CPP spot on McDuffie seems like a pretty reasonable assessment. You can be a really good college player and still be a four year guy.

                                I'd say something about Perry Ellis, but then heads would explode and people would start ranting at me about ceilings and ages and comparing Ellis to McDuffie, which I'm not -- I'm simply pointing out, to quote my own sage words, that "You can be a really good college player and still be a four year guy." Perry Ellis is an example, for his own particular set of reasons; and McDuffie may well be also, for his own particular (but not necessarily the same) set of reasons.

                                Edit: In an earlier time, although one in which far lesser players were nevertheless still coming out early, Tim Duncan was also a really good college player who was still a four year guy.
                                Last edited by WSUwatcher; August 22, 2017, 01:34 PM.

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