2016-17 Bracketology

[ShockerFever]

The last 5 hours of Jerry Palm's twitter feed is a comedy of errors, insecurities, and just soreness over WSU. And he's now trying to be like Seth Goober Davis with what he's thinks are witty one-liners and dubious "facts".

Seriously, he's a loser. CBS has hired a plethora of them.

[ShockerFever]

I'm thinking of moving Palm ahead of Gottlieb in my most hated rankings.

I was just thinking the exact same thing. Seriously.

[ShockerDave]

Palm is a four letter word.

[WuDrWu]

The last 5 hours of Jerry Palm's twitter feed is a comedy of errors, insecurities, and just soreness over WSU. And he's now trying to be like Seth Goober Davis with what he's thinks are witty one-liners and dubious "facts".

Seriously, he's a loser. CBS has hired a plethora of them.

Marshall must have just pounded his wife right in front of Jerry and left her begging for more. That's some serious butt hurt there. Also thinks Houston is in the mix with a win over SMU or Cincy. Clearly all he cares about are quality wins. By the way, we're up to 40 in the RPI so it's not like we're out of the picture, even if you're myopic enough to only consider that 1 metric.

[WuDrWu]

I understand that, and I agree to an extent, but we're talking about generalities here. Look at the teams. Count the at large teams clearly ahead of WSU. Yes, you have to assume P5 conferences will have autobids to their top teams, but tell me 36 teams ahead of WSU right now.

(UNC) Virginia, Duke, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Miami, Florida State. (Kansas) Baylor, West Virginia, Iowa State, Kansas State (generous), Oklahoma State. (Villanova) Creighton, Xavier, Butler. (Wisconsin) Maryland, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Michigan State. (Arizona) Oregon, UCLA, Cal, USC, Utah. (Florida) Kentucky, South Carolina, Arkansas. (Gonzaga) St. Mary's.


(Cincinnati) SMU? (VCU) Dayton (UNC-Wilmington) (Middle Tennessee) (Valparaiso) (Monmouth) (Akron) (Belmont)


What am I missing? Who is not on that list that is in ahead of WSU? Even if ALL of the non multiple bid conferences have upsets, and you think Cincinnati, SMU, VCU, Dayton, UNC-W, MTSU, Akron & Belmont ALL get in ahead of WSU that's only 37 teams and we're the first 2 out.


And only Cincinnati is clearly ahead of WSU.

Where do we stand 6 days later?

(UNC) Virginia, Duke, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Miami, Florida State. (EDIT Moving Va Tech ahead for now. Deserving. But Syracuse is dangerously close to falling behind)

(Kansas) Baylor, West Virginia, Iowa State, Kansas State (generous), Oklahoma State. (Move OSU ahead of Kstate who SURVIVED elimination at Texas today. TCU and TT are still behind WSU and in deep trouble)

(Villanova) Creighton, Xavier, Butler. (Probably have to add Marquette now with a solid resume even with 10 losses)

(Wisconsin) Maryland, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Michigan State. (Again, gotta add Michigan here. The Wolverines have 4 of final 5 on the road though, and the home game is against Purdue)

(Arizona) Oregon, UCLA, Cal, USC, Utah. (Moving Utah behind WSU. Only 1 good win and 9 total losses)

(Florida) Kentucky, South Carolina, Arkansas. (More solid are those 4, and nobody else really very close to WSU)

(Gonzaga) St. Mary's. Both clearly ahead of WSU. No one else close.

(Cincinnati) SMU (Ahead of WSU but not by much)

(VCU) Dayton (Same with Dayton)

(UNC-Wilmington - lost to Middle Tennessee and just can't have 3 league losses) (Middle Tennessee - man they have 3 bad losses to Tenn State, Georgia State and an awful loss to UTEP) (Valparaiso - Can't be swept by Oakland and expect an at large unfortunately) (Monmouth - in the hunt but behind WSU) (Akron - Sorry Akron, can't lose to Youngstown and Kent and get an at large) (Belmont -a faint pulse but that loss to Tenn Tech is a killer)


So I have 33 teams ahead of WSU at this point. I can't see any of the middies above getting in ahead of WSU if they don't win their conference tourney.

Would be most concerned about upsets in the following tourneys, in order from most concerning to least:

A-10
AAC
SEC
B10
WCC
BigE
Big12
ACC
PAC12

9 Bid stealers potentially.

[Topshock]

This just in from March 2018:

In Jerry Palm’s last bracket before Selection Sunday he has undefeated Wichita State in his “first four out”

When asked about asked about Wichita State who most are projecting as a #1 Seed he stated: “While they had some good wins in November and December, those early wins just don’t mean as much as a good conference win late in the season. That’s why Kansas State (7-11 in conference) is included due to their great win over Oklahoma (a team WSU also beat in December) last Saturday.

Palm commented “The last straw for Wichita State was they just didn’t have any good losses”

[moshock]

Palm is a four letter word.

and the "J" in Jerry is pronounced just like the "J" in Jose

[WuDrWu]

I know everyone's concerned about what we don't have control over (a bid if we lose the tourney) but kind of ignored for a month or so......what seed do the Shocks get/deserve if they win out? 5 games. Evansville, Missouri State, say Bradley, UNI, ISU. 30-4 (admittedly 29-4 for seeding purposes) gets you what seed? Go.

[Play Angry]

7.

[shockerfan]

I know everyone's concerned about what we don't have control over (a bid if we lose the tourney) but kind of ignored for a month or so......what seed do the Shocks get/deserve if they win out? 5 games. Evansville, Missouri State, say Bradley, UNI, ISU. 30-4 (admittedly 29-4 for seeding purposes) gets you what seed? Go.

Of course a lot depends on how the rest of the field does from here on out. But I believe the ceiling is a 6 seed with a 7 seed being most probable.

[shocks771]

I just have a feeling we will be capped out in the 8-9 seed range.

[shoxlax]

I can legit see a 7 if we win out, with 6 being a real possibility.

[WheatShock]

I think we would end up in the 7, 8, 9, 10 range.

[GoShox]

6, maybe a 5 if we punish the rest of the teams and the tourney final on cbs by the standard 25-30 points we have been as of late. More than likely a 6-7, which we can live with.

[Dan]

5 at best 7 at worst if we win out