MVC transfers

[Shocker1976]

Jack Sikma did not play NAIA basketball. He played NCAA D-III at Illinois Wesleyan. Perhaps the functional equivalent though. Hell of a player.

I agree regards Sikma but NAIA published following list in 2005

Athlete, NAIA School - NBA Team
Ron Adams, Fresno Pacific (Calif.) - Milwaukee Bucks
James Anderson, Union (Ky.) - Portland Trailblazers
Paul Anderson, California College - San Diego
Nate Archibald, Alcorn State (Miss.) - Boston Celtics
Dick Barnett, Tennessee A & I - New York Knicks
John Barnhill, Tennessee A & I -
Billy Ray Bates, Kentucky State - Portland, Golden State
John Bates, West Virginia Wesleyan - Indianapolis
Elgin Baylor, College of Idaho - Los Angeles Lakers
Zelmo Beaty, Prairie View A&M (Texas) - San Francisco/Utah Jazz
Leroy Berry, Wilmington (Ohio) - Cleveland
Delmer Beshore, California (Pa.) - Milwaukee Bucks/Chicago Bulls
Bill Branch, Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) - Denver Nuggets
Mike Brungardt, Central State (Ohio) - San Antonio Spurs
Don Butcher, Pikeville (Ky.) - Detroit Pistons/New York Knicks
M.L. Carr, Guilford (N.C.) - Detroit Pistons, Boston Celtics
Gordon Chiesa, St. Thomas Aquinas (N.Y.) - Utah Jazz
Melvin Crafter, Central State (Ohio) - Cleveland
Melvin Crayton, Alabama State - Milwaukee
Ken Dancy, Chicago State (Ill.) - Washington
John Drew, Gardner-Webb (N.C.) - Atlanta/Philadelphia/Utah
Terry Dupris, Huron (S.D.) - Detriot
Claude English, Rhode Island (current Park (Mo.) Athletics Director) - Portland Trail Blazers
Kenny Evans, Norfolk State (Va.) -
Tony Forch, Midwestern State (Texas) - Dallas
World B. Free, Guilford (N.C.) - Philadelphia 76'ers/Houston Rockets
Joe Fulks, Murray State (Ky.) - Philadelphia 76'ers
Jim Gillen, Fort Hays State (Kan.) - Denver Nuggets
Carl Goodine, Stephen F. Austin (Texas) - Washington
Del Harris, Hanover (Ind.) - LA Lakers
Tim Higgins, Kearney State (Neb.) - Golden State
Charles Hightower, Dillard (La.) - Atlanta
Gib Hinz, Wisconsin-Eau Claire - San Antonio
Melvin Hooker, Edinboro State (Pa.) - Los Angeles
Bob Hopkins, Grambling State (La.) - Seattle/Buffalo
Leroy Jackson, Cameron (Okla.) - Dallas
Lucious Jackson, Pan American (Texas) - Philadelphia 76'ers
Henry James, St. Mary's (Texas) - Cleveland
Bob Kauffman, Guilford (N.C.) - Buffalo
Arvesta Kelly, Lincoln (Mo.) - Utah Stars
Stanley Lamb, Steubenville (Ohio) - Atlanta
Kevin Loder, Alabama State - Kansas City Kings
Leroy Loggins, Fairmont State (W.Va.) - Detriot
Bob Love, Southern-Baton Rouge (La.) - Chicago/Baltimore
Rick Mahorn, Hampton (Va.) - Washington/Philadelphia
Joe C. Meriweather (current Park (Mo.) WBB coach) -- Kansas City Kings
Pete Meyers, Arkansas-Little Rock - Chicago Bulls
Vern Mikkelsen, Hamline (Minn.) - Minneapolis Lakers
Earl Monroe, Winston-Salem (N.C.) - Washington Bullets/New York Knicks
Tony Murphy, Southern-Baton Rouge (La.) - Kansas City
Moochie Norris, West Florida - Houston Rockets
Bob Ociepka, Quincy (Ill.) - Detroit Pistons
Charlie Parker, Findlay (Ohio) - Dallas Mavericks
James Patrick, Southwest Texas State - Denver
Mike Pemberthy, The Master's (Calif.) - Los Angeles Lakers
Scottie Pippen, Central Arkansas - Chicago Bulls, Portland Trailblazers
Terry Porter, Wisconsin-Stevens Point - Portland Trailblazers
Willis Reed, Grambling State (La.) - New York Knicks
Robert Reid, St. Mary's (Texas) - Houston
Dennis Rodman, Southeastern Oklahoma State - Detroit Pistons/Chicago Bulls/LA Lakers/SA Spurs
Gerald Ross, Grand Canyon (Ariz.) - New York
Earl Sango, Regis (Colo.) - Denver
Daniel Santiago, St. Vincent (Pa.) - Phoenix Suns/Milwaukee Bucks
Mike Schimensky, Central Washington - Seattle Supersonics
Bruce Seals, Xavier (La.) - Seattle
Purvis Short, Jackson State (Miss.) - Golden State
Jack Sikma, Illinois Wesleyan - Seattle Supersonics
Larry Smith, Alcorn State (Miss.) - Golden State
Maurice Stokes, St. Francis (Pa.) - Rochester/Cincinnati
Roger Strickland, Jacksonville (Fla.) - Los Angeles Lakers
Greg Sutton, Oral Roberts (Okla.) - San Antonio/Miami
Bennie Swain, Texas Southern - Boston Celtics
Sedale Threatt, West Virginia Tech - Seattle/Washington/LA Lakers
Jay Triano, Simon Fraser (B.C.) - Toronto Raptors
Al Tucker, Oklahoma Baptist - Seattle Supersonics
Ed Turner, Texas A & I - Houston
John Turner, Phillips (Okla.) - Houston
Clarence Walker, West Georgia - New Jersey Nets
Mike Wells, Mount Vernon Nazarene (Ohio) - Houston Rockets
Robert Whaley, Walsh (Ohio) - Utah Jazz (ACTIVE)
Eddie Wilkins, Gardner-Webb (N.C.) - New York Knicks
Joel Williams, Wisconsin-LaCrosse - Atlanta
Milton Williams, Lincoln (Mo.) - New York Knicks
Clint Wyatt, Alcorn State (Miss.) - Washington
Elmore Smith, Kentucky State, Athlete, NBA, Buffalo, LA Lakers, Milwaukee, Cleveland
Travis Grant, Kentucky State, Athlete, NBA, LA Lakers
Slick Watts, Xavier (La.), Athlete, NBA, Seattle, New Orleans, Houston

[Shocker1976]

I did look it up. There aren't any. I thought maybe I missed some and was offering you an opportunity to look less like an ass.

I am aware of Scottie Pippen and Manute Bol, but they retired years ago. In today's NBA, there are No NAIA players, and as such I will stand by my assertion that it is unusual but not unheard of.

Article on SheridanHoops speaks to your point

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/07/23/what-happened-to-all-the-great-division-ii-and-iii-players/

[ShockingButTrue]

Article on SheridanHoops speaks to your point
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/07...d-iii-players/

That certainly was his point. And he's correct, but I wasn't talking about the game I watched on TNT last night as far as representing NAIA players making it in the NBA.

[ShockingButTrue]

I agree regards Sikma but NAIA published following list in 2005

Athlete, NAIA School - NBA Team
Ron Adams, Fresno Pacific (Calif.) - Milwaukee Bucks
James Anderson, Union (Ky.) - Portland Trailblazers
Paul Anderson, California College - San Diego
Nate Archibald, Alcorn State (Miss.) - Boston Celtics
Dick Barnett, Tennessee A & I - New York Knicks
John Barnhill, Tennessee A & I -
Billy Ray Bates, Kentucky State - Portland, Golden State
John Bates, West Virginia Wesleyan - Indianapolis
Elgin Baylor, College of Idaho - Los Angeles Lakers
Zelmo Beaty, Prairie View A&M (Texas) - San Francisco/Utah Jazz
Leroy Berry, Wilmington (Ohio) - Cleveland
Delmer Beshore, California (Pa.) - Milwaukee Bucks/Chicago Bulls
Bill Branch, Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) - Denver Nuggets
Mike Brungardt, Central State (Ohio) - San Antonio Spurs
Don Butcher, Pikeville (Ky.) - Detroit Pistons/New York Knicks
M.L. Carr, Guilford (N.C.) - Detroit Pistons, Boston Celtics
Gordon Chiesa, St. Thomas Aquinas (N.Y.) - Utah Jazz
Melvin Crafter, Central State (Ohio) - Cleveland
Melvin Crayton, Alabama State - Milwaukee
Ken Dancy, Chicago State (Ill.) - Washington
John Drew, Gardner-Webb (N.C.) - Atlanta/Philadelphia/Utah
Terry Dupris, Huron (S.D.) - Detriot
Claude English, Rhode Island (current Park (Mo.) Athletics Director) - Portland Trail Blazers
Kenny Evans, Norfolk State (Va.) -
Tony Forch, Midwestern State (Texas) - Dallas
World B. Free, Guilford (N.C.) - Philadelphia 76'ers/Houston Rockets
Joe Fulks, Murray State (Ky.) - Philadelphia 76'ers
Jim Gillen, Fort Hays State (Kan.) - Denver Nuggets
Carl Goodine, Stephen F. Austin (Texas) - Washington
Del Harris, Hanover (Ind.) - LA Lakers
Tim Higgins, Kearney State (Neb.) - Golden State
Charles Hightower, Dillard (La.) - Atlanta
Gib Hinz, Wisconsin-Eau Claire - San Antonio
Melvin Hooker, Edinboro State (Pa.) - Los Angeles
Bob Hopkins, Grambling State (La.) - Seattle/Buffalo
Leroy Jackson, Cameron (Okla.) - Dallas
Lucious Jackson, Pan American (Texas) - Philadelphia 76'ers
Henry James, St. Mary's (Texas) - Cleveland
Bob Kauffman, Guilford (N.C.) - Buffalo
Arvesta Kelly, Lincoln (Mo.) - Utah Stars
Stanley Lamb, Steubenville (Ohio) - Atlanta
Kevin Loder, Alabama State - Kansas City Kings
Leroy Loggins, Fairmont State (W.Va.) - Detriot
Bob Love, Southern-Baton Rouge (La.) - Chicago/Baltimore
Rick Mahorn, Hampton (Va.) - Washington/Philadelphia
Joe C. Meriweather (current Park (Mo.) WBB coach) -- Kansas City Kings
Pete Meyers, Arkansas-Little Rock - Chicago Bulls
Vern Mikkelsen, Hamline (Minn.) - Minneapolis Lakers
Earl Monroe, Winston-Salem (N.C.) - Washington Bullets/New York Knicks
Tony Murphy, Southern-Baton Rouge (La.) - Kansas City
Moochie Norris, West Florida - Houston Rockets
Bob Ociepka, Quincy (Ill.) - Detroit Pistons
Charlie Parker, Findlay (Ohio) - Dallas Mavericks
James Patrick, Southwest Texas State - Denver
Mike Pemberthy, The Master's (Calif.) - Los Angeles Lakers
Scottie Pippen, Central Arkansas - Chicago Bulls, Portland Trailblazers
Terry Porter, Wisconsin-Stevens Point - Portland Trailblazers
Willis Reed, Grambling State (La.) - New York Knicks
Robert Reid, St. Mary's (Texas) - Houston
Dennis Rodman, Southeastern Oklahoma State - Detroit Pistons/Chicago Bulls/LA Lakers/SA Spurs
Gerald Ross, Grand Canyon (Ariz.) - New York
Earl Sango, Regis (Colo.) - Denver
Daniel Santiago, St. Vincent (Pa.) - Phoenix Suns/Milwaukee Bucks
Mike Schimensky, Central Washington - Seattle Supersonics
Bruce Seals, Xavier (La.) - Seattle
Purvis Short, Jackson State (Miss.) - Golden State
Jack Sikma, Illinois Wesleyan - Seattle Supersonics
Larry Smith, Alcorn State (Miss.) - Golden State
Maurice Stokes, St. Francis (Pa.) - Rochester/Cincinnati
Roger Strickland, Jacksonville (Fla.) - Los Angeles Lakers
Greg Sutton, Oral Roberts (Okla.) - San Antonio/Miami
Bennie Swain, Texas Southern - Boston Celtics
Sedale Threatt, West Virginia Tech - Seattle/Washington/LA Lakers
Jay Triano, Simon Fraser (B.C.) - Toronto Raptors
Al Tucker, Oklahoma Baptist - Seattle Supersonics
Ed Turner, Texas A & I - Houston
John Turner, Phillips (Okla.) - Houston
Clarence Walker, West Georgia - New Jersey Nets
Mike Wells, Mount Vernon Nazarene (Ohio) - Houston Rockets
Robert Whaley, Walsh (Ohio) - Utah Jazz (ACTIVE)
Eddie Wilkins, Gardner-Webb (N.C.) - New York Knicks
Joel Williams, Wisconsin-LaCrosse - Atlanta
Milton Williams, Lincoln (Mo.) - New York Knicks
Clint Wyatt, Alcorn State (Miss.) - Washington
Elmore Smith, Kentucky State, Athlete, NBA, Buffalo, LA Lakers, Milwaukee, Cleveland
Travis Grant, Kentucky State, Athlete, NBA, LA Lakers
Slick Watts, Xavier (La.), Athlete, NBA, Seattle, New Orleans, Houston

I was referring to this compendium of small college players, of which I've seen many play in real time. Thank you for the effort.

So I don't know, or care, if wufan was trying to change a heart or a mind when he interjected into my point about K. Manigault having a successful career with nothing to be ashamed of. I stand by THAT point.

[_kai_]

He had an epic Shocker Madness scrimmage game once upon a time, as I recall.

It taught me many things about what to take away from Shocker Madness scrimmages.

I learned that also looking similar to Waka Flocka, Carl Hall goes hard in the paint as well.

[Shocker1976]

I was referring to this compendium of small college players, of which I've seen many play in real time. Thank you for the effort.

So I don't know, or care, if wufan was trying to change a heart or a mind when he interjected into my point about K. Manigault having a successful career with nothing to be ashamed of. I stand by THAT point.

Take a deep breath and reread all relevant posts; wufan was addressing your "It's not unusual for players in that category to be 1st round draft picks" statement. We are all in agreement that KM had a successful year; and, IMO, we are all also in agreement at this point in time should an NAIA POY be drafted in the first round of the NBA draft such would be unusual event.

[ShockingButTrue]

Take a deep breath and reread all relevant posts; wufan was addressing your "It's not unusual for players in that category to be 1st round draft picks" statement. We are all in agreement that KM had a successful year; and, IMO, we are all also in agreement at this point in time should an NAIA POY be drafted in the first round of the NBA draft such would be unusual event.

I don't need to reread them, and why would I want to, considering that in the name of dimplomacy, I'm the one who withdrew the first round qualifier. Even though I've seen such players drafted in that round.

And the next time an NAIA player is drafted in the FIRST round, it won't be the first time, nor the last I'm sure. And It'll most likely be the NAIA player of the year.

If it's unusual to you, well, that's alright with me.

Oh, and by the way, a top 10 pick in the '77 draft, Jack Sikma is on that list you took time to paste. So you and wufan can both blowt out your asses... With love of course!!! Thanks again.

In fraternity

[Kel Varnsen]

I learned that also looking similar to Waka Flocka, Carl Hall goes hard in the paint as well.

Holy cow. Never noticed that until now. You are so right.

[Aargh]

So you and wufan can both blowt out your asses... With love of course!!!

Don't think I've ever seen those two phrases put together that way before. Causes one to be suspect of the sincerity. Well, not really.

[Kung Wu]

Don't think I've ever seen those two phrases put together that way before. Causes one to be suspect of the sincerity. Well, not really.

Blowt: Olde English for past tense of blow.

[Aargh]

I thought it was one of those text message shortcuts, just shortened the word. After the Carlos O'Kelly's ad, I thought it was supposed to be,

So you and wufan can both blowtorch out your asses. With love of course!!!

Then it makes sense. You can love Carlos O'kelly's, but the next day...

[rjl]

Oh, and by the way, a top 10 pick in the '77 draft, Jack Sikma is on that list you took time to paste. So you and wufan can both blowt out your asses... With love of course!!! Thanks again.

In fraternity

I hope that if I ever run into you I'm in my car.

[ShockingButTrue]

Blowt: Olde English for past tense of blow.

:good:

[ShockingButTrue]

I hope that if I ever run into you I'm in my car.

Yourt funny

[Shocker1976]

I don't need to reread them, and why would I want to, considering that in the name of dimplomacy, I'm the one who withdrew the first round qualifier. Even though I've seen such players drafted in that round.

And the next time an NAIA player is drafted in the FIRST round, it won't be the first time, nor the last I'm sure. And It'll most likely be the NAIA player of the year.

If it's unusual to you, well, that's alright with me.

Oh, and by the way, a top 10 pick in the '77 draft, Jack Sikma is on that list you took time to paste. So you and wufan can both blowt out your asses... With love of course!!! Thanks again.

In fraternity

Two qualifiers -
1.) I offer no assurances regards my expertise at searching the internet for information

2.) I have limited historical knowledge of players in the NBA

My google search produced the following instructive (for some readers, undoubtedly) list regards NAIA basketball players being drafted by NBA teams -

1967 - Earl Monroe was the 2nd pick in the NBA draft
1971 - Elmore Smith was the 3rd pick in the NBA draft
1977 - Jack Sikma was the 8th pick in the NBA draft
1985 - Charles Oakley was the 9th pick in the NBA draft
1985 - Terry Porter was the 24th pick in the NBA draft
1987 - Scotty Pippen was the 5th pick in the NBA draft
1999 - Devean George was the 23rd pick in the NBA draft

The last NAIA player I could find who was picked in the NBA draft is Flip Murray in 2002.

Consequently, I am in agreement with wufan that at this point in time the selection of an NAIA player by an NBA team in the NBA draft would be an unusual (defined by Merriam Webster as uncommon) event.