Ab-Normal Dementia

[RoyalShock]

Yup

Re: ISU at WSU
Postby red dream » Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:34 pm
Whichita St. will,without a doubt,be the second best team in Valley next year.Thinking otherwise,is just wishful thinking.

That guy totally misspelled "whill", "whithout", "otherwhise" and "whishful".

[RoyalShock]

All fans want to believe their teams will be better next year. Honestly, ISUR returns a pretty good core group. A group that underperformed this year. I would consider ISUR to be in a good position going into 2016/17.

Having said that, anyone that believes that WSU will relinquish the Championship easily is mistaken. The group coming back, the group coming in, the group that redshirted will be formidable. It will still be our title to lose. I predict a four-peat. Should a four-peat come to pass, it will have been done with zero, ZERO seniors. Now won't that be a kick in the teeth.

I agree. With all they have (presumably) returning, and the Shockers losing RB/FVV/EW/AG, their fans should be expecting a Valley title. They're fans, and it's not unreasonable. And if you look at the rest of the league, there is nobody left to make a challenge. Did you see the MVC 1st and 2nd teams? All seniors. In a down year. I'm already nauseous thinking about it.

EDIT: I missed Brenton Scott (SO) on the 2nd team. But since I think the Trees will be worse next year, the point remains.

[Stickboy46]

All fans want to believe their teams will be better next year. Honestly, ISUR returns a pretty good core group. A group that underperformed this year. I would consider ISUR to be in a good position going into 2016/17.

Having said that, anyone that believes that WSU will relinquish the Championship easily is mistaken. The group coming back, the group coming in, the group that redshirted will be formidable. It will still be our title to lose. I predict a four-peat. Should a four-peat come to pass, it will have been done with zero, ZERO seniors. Now won't that be a kick in the teeth.

Zero SCHOLARSHIP seniors ... Just to clarify. JRS and Zach Bush will be seniors :)

[1972Shocker]

All fans want to believe their teams will be better next year. Honestly, ISUR returns a pretty good core group. A group that underperformed this year. I would consider ISUR to be in a good position going into 2016/17.

Having said that, anyone that believes that WSU will relinquish the Championship easily is mistaken. The group coming back, the group coming in, the group that redshirted will be formidable. It will still be our title to lose. I predict a four-peat. Should a four-peat come to pass, it will have been done with zero, ZERO seniors. Now won't that be a kick in the teeth.

I agree. Illinois State should be very good next year assuming everyone returns. Their big loss is Devaughn Akoon-Purcell and they will have some bench minutes to fill for Brewer and McCloud. My guess is that they will be voted as the preseason favorite next year by the coaches and media members. The Shockers will no doubt have something significant to say about the ultimate outcome of that prediction.

[WSUwatcher]

If the Jailbirds are picked as the preseason favorite -- and I agree with others that we'll have to see which of their players expected to be able to return actually do so -- that should provide even more motivation for the Shocks than the 1-12 foolishness we've been hearing about for so long now. The Shocks seem to use such motivation very well.

The other thought that occurs to me is this: if a team consistently underperforms with all that talent, is there some reason to expect that one season they're suddenly going to start playing up to their capabilities? I'm thinking that underachievement is just something you have to factor in when you're evaluating the Red Dreamers.

[WuDrWu]

What is "Demetia"? Is that a special form of dementia that only Illinois State fans contract?

Fat finger typing. I asked @_kai_: to correct it for me but he's obviously too busy with national media requests of late.

[ShockBand]

Fat finger typing. I asked @_kai_ to correct it for me but he's obviously too busy with national media requests of late.

Fixed. No national media bugging me!

[WuDrWu]

I agree. Illinois State should be very good next year assuming everyone returns. Their big loss is Devaughn Akoon-Purcell and they will have some bench minutes to fill for Brewer and McCloud. My guess is that they will be voted as the preseason favorite next year by the coaches and media members. The Shockers will no doubt have something significant to say about the ultimate outcome of that prediction.

Even in the Valley of Even, I don't think enough people are that stupid. WSU will be the favorite again, just not by such a wide margin.

[ShockTalk]

If the Jailbirds are picked as the preseason favorite -- and I agree with others that we'll have to see which of their players expected to be able to return actually do so -- that should provide even more motivation for the Shocks than the 1-12 foolishness we've been hearing about for so long now. The Shocks seem to use such motivation very well.

The other thought that occurs to me is this: if a team consistently underperforms with all that talent, is there some reason to expect that one season they're suddenly going to start playing up to their capabilities? I'm thinking that underachievement is just something you have to factor in when you're evaluating the Red Dreamers.

Hawkins is only 2 months younger than Akoon-Purcell.

[ShockerFever]

It's hysterical that Redturd fans think they're gonna be the favorites next year.

Beat WSU for the first time in 12 regular seasons, at home, by 5, and now it's Redturd takeover. Forget about the 6 losses (1 to Missouri State lol) and the coaching caliber of Dan Muller.

These Ivy scholars are too easy.

[HockeyShock]

To be fair, what fan on a forum is anything but, "next year is our year!"?

Besides our crack team of analysts, of course. ;)

[1972Shocker]

Even in the Valley of Even, I don't think enough people are that stupid. WSU will be the favorite again, just not by such a wide margin.

Maybe. Maybe not. My guess that losing Fred, Ron, Evan and Anton will cause many folks to conclude that the Shocks will take a step backward next year. Personally, I don't think that is necessarily a sign of stupidity. In addition to some outstanding talent moving on there are some major league intangibles moving on as well not the least of which is leadership. You know folks are going to look back at how we performed without Fred earlier this year and project that into next year. So stupid or not I would not be surprised at all if Illinois State is installed as the preseason favorite next fall.

[pinstripers]

I expect to win the Valley next year, but I don't see any way we will be chosen as pre-season favorite.

[1972Shocker]

Even in the Valley of Even, I don't think enough people are that stupid. WSU will be the favorite again, just not by such a wide margin.

Maybe. Maybe not. My guess that losing Fred, Ron, Evan and Anton will cause many folks to conclude that the Shocks will take a step backward next year. Personally, I don't think that is necessarily a sign of stupidity. In addition to some outstanding talent moving on there are some major league intangibles moving on as well not the least of which is leadership. You know folks are going to look back at how we performed without Fred earlier this year and project that into next year. So stupid or not I would not be surprised at all if Illinois State is installed as the preseason favorite next fall.

[ShockTalk]

Maybe. Maybe not. My guess that losing Fred, Ron, Evan and Anton will cause many folks to conclude that the Shocks will take a step backward next year. Personally, I don't think that is necessarily a sign of stupidity. In addition to some outstanding talent moving on there are some major league intangibles moving on as well not the least of which is leadership. You know folks are going to look back at how we performed without Fred earlier this year and project that into next year. So stupid or not I would not be surprised at all if Illinois State is installed as the preseason favorite next fall.

Senior moment?