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  • Originally posted by SHURTZtheHERTZ View Post
    They play in the SEC....

    Paging the BE: Whenever you need help loading the moving boxes for WSU, give me a call
    At least make him admit it so that he is transparent about having a P5 bias.
    78-65

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    • Well, there is this:

      Matt Norlander@MattNorlander 11m11 minutes ago
      Spoke w/ the chair of sel cmte this AM and asked him point blank, "Do you have a subscription to KenPom?" He said he looks at it every day.

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      • I know this goes against the mindset here, but I would think if you give too much credit to MOV, it could lead to teams loading up their non-conf schedule with RPI 300s + and blowing them out by 20-30 points in order to help their resume. Also, that is why they obviously coined the term "good losses."

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        • Pascal Siakam is a double-double machine. Twenty-five times in 31 games this season, Siakam has posted double figures in points and rebounds. And come June, he may hear his name called in the NBA draft...


          Wait a sec...didn't Wich St completely shut him down and beat them by 30?

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          • Watch Palm closely. He's gone in one week from WSU out with a loss to a maybe they have a high seed with the loss. Soon, he and Lunardi will be very close.

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            • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
              Wow. Just wow. The idiocy that follows is mindboggling.
              Dude. When you are condescending and arrogant toward people, and call them names, they won't listen to you -- NOR SHOULD THEY. You are never going to get that, are you?

              Calling him dumb and then badgering him, isn't helping the Shockers case at all. If you are going to rep Wichita with a major media influencer, at least be respectful so that he will listen to your solid arguments.

              Your arguments ARE insightful and useful, and with the right tact, you may actually get him to consider them. But based on the approach you are taking, you are going to end up being just another of a bunch of condescending idiots for him to ignore. And that's a shame, because you have super strong Bracketology Fu.

              Also, your political "identity" puts you in the weirdo camp.

              Swap that out to something NCAA basketball related, gather your strong arguments, present them in a respectful way, and do something good for WSU!
              Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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              • Palm seems like a guy who somehow slipped into an engineering, accounting, or financial analyst job with a general studies degree from University of Phoenix.

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                • Didn't know where to put this, but don't know how UNI is on par now with WSU.

                  Andrew Logue ‏@AndrewMLogue 13h13 hours ago

                  UNI on par with WSU after Washpun's shot .... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ight/81449620/

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                  • Has anyone ever asked Palm if he has an excuse for being a terrible bracketologist year after year and why he thinks he has any credibility at all?

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                    • Originally posted by shocktheheart View Post
                      Didn't know where to put this, but don't know how UNI is on par now with WSU.

                      Andrew Logue ‏@AndrewMLogue 13h13 hours ago

                      UNI on par with WSU after Washpun's shot .... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ight/81449620/

                      https://twitter.com/AndrewMLogue/sta...64838879518720
                      And the retard of the year award goes to....

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                      • Originally posted by shocktheheart View Post
                        Didn't know where to put this, but don't know how UNI is on par now with WSU.

                        Andrew Logue ‏@AndrewMLogue 13h13 hours ago

                        UNI on par with WSU after Washpun's shot .... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ight/81449620/

                        https://twitter.com/AndrewMLogue/sta...64838879518720
                        He has a blue-checkmark, so he has to know what he's talking about!!
                        The Assman

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                        • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                          Dude. When you are condescending and arrogant toward people, and call them names, they won't listen to you -- NOR SHOULD THEY. You are never going to get that, are you?
                          ....
                          Calling him dumb and then badgering him
                          I'm very sympathetic to your general point @Kung Wu, but I completely disagree with your application of it in this case.

                          I called his standard dumb (not him, his standard) and used a bunch of logical explanation to support it. If you read twitter whatsoever, you know I was extremely civil compared to much of what he gets.

                          He later posted that he disagreed with my thinking, but appreciated that I was using numbers (implying most responses are only emotion based) and he liked that I was approaching things from a unique angle.

                          He heard me out, appreciated my argument, but then completely and enthusiastically disagreed. No approach would have helped short of an hour sitting together in person. Now I can feel confident that I'm not missing anything in regards to his opinions. He simply ignores margin of victory, which I find to be utterly stupid, but I can't force him to change.

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                          • Originally posted by Flip1381 View Post
                            I know this goes against the mindset here, but I would think if you give too much credit to MOV, it could lead to teams loading up their non-conf schedule with RPI 300s + and blowing them out by 20-30 points in order to help their resume.
                            Hey, Flip -- Have you looked at some of the schedules teams like Georgetown and Providence play? They already do that. How do you think Bryant and Maryland-Eastern Shore get into some of those east coast tournaments?

                            Besides, a guy like Pomeroy knows that not all opponents are equal, and he takes that into consideration in weighting margin of victory. But as between his calibration and the old RPI, a sledgehammer used to swat a fly, which ignores margin of victory altogether, how can anyone not prefer a metric that at least considers something that's obviously relevant? That's why the committee has pretty much abandoned RPI -- they KNOW it's wrong, whereas at least with the other metrics the quibble is just about how much consideration should be given.

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                            • Originally posted by shocktheheart View Post
                              Didn't know where to put this, but don't know how UNI is on par now with WSU.

                              Andrew Logue ‏@AndrewMLogue 13h13 hours ago

                              UNI on par with WSU after Washpun's shot .... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ight/81449620/

                              https://twitter.com/AndrewMLogue/sta...64838879518720
                              UNI is "on par" with WSU about like Iowa State is "on par" with KU. Hate using KU to support something associated with WSU, but the analogy is quite similar once scaled from the B12 to the MVC.

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                              • I'm happy with wins and losses getting 80-90% of consideration and margin of victory being only a modest factor for adjustment. If you took 80% of RPI, 20% of KenPom, and came up with a blended ranking for use by the committee, I wouldn't complain. What I am not happy with is someone who says margin should be ignored entirely. How stupid is the following:

                                Palm's job is trying to predict what the committee will do
                                The committee chair says he looks at KenPom every day
                                Palm says he doesn't look at KenPom at all

                                What the heck!!!

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