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  • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
    And not once in that article did they mention the Shocker's not playing at full strength, yet still gave the nod to the Shox.

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    • Interesting SBNation analysis, with WSU coming out on top pretty easily, despite only one computer metric (KenPom) being cited (which is WSU's greatest area of strength), and no allowance for injuries. I question whether WSU really should be placed in a pool with Valpo and Monmouth for purposes of comparison to begin with, though.

      Still lots of talk about top 50 this, top 100 that, however. I wonder how much attention the selectors really pay to those breakdowns any more, given what we hear about them tending to ignore RPI -- after all, RPI is traditionally how such categories are established. I don't have time to look, but how might WSU would stack up against top 50 and top 100 teams measured a different way? For example, using Warren Nolan's NPI (in which WSU is currently 17th, by the way), which I can check quickly because he's kind enough to calculate it for me, the Shocks are 3-2 against his top 50 and 7-6 against the top 100, even with the Orlando debacle.

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      • adjusting for location (home/away/neutral) and opponent, we are 2-3 in top 50 games, and 4-7 in top 100 games.

        This is not just record vs kenpom's top XX teams as that would defeat the use of kenpom. I used his "tiers of joy" to identify which games were top 50/100 adjusting for location.

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        • Wow. Just wow. The idiocy that follows is mindboggling.

          I rarely use my twitter account for sports. Mostly I just follow politics. But this time of year I do follow some sports figures to keep up with what is being said. Last night, Jerry Palm responded to me a couple of times. Read it for yourself. Pitiful.

          I'll make a post on shockernet later today or tomorrow detailing out further the stats I referenced in the tweets below. I'm putting together a post showing why leaving out WSU this year would be a travesty.














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          • Hairy Palm is the biggest moron ever, he's so punchable!

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            • Just ignore the 200+ loses, because they beat UCLA!!!!!!

              And they bench dances!!!!!!! That's got to count more than MOV!!!!!
              The Assman

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              • Hey JH4P, ask him why he gives South Carolina a pass. Yes, the Gamecocks have three better wins than WSU but they also have three worse losses...so those should cancel out, making SC and WSU equal. As you have said to me before, the consensus puts SC and WSU pretty equal in seeding. So why does this jackwagon separate them by so much?
                78-65

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                • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
                  Hey JH4P, ask him why he gives South Carolina a pass. Yes, the Gamecocks have three better wins than WSU but they also have three worse losses...so those should cancel out, making SC and WSU equal. As you have said to me before, the consensus puts SC and WSU pretty equal in seeding. So why does this jackwagon separate them by so much?
                  They play in the SEC....

                  Paging the BE: Whenever you need help loading the moving boxes for WSU, give me a call
                  The Assman

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                  • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
                    Hairy Palm is the biggest moron ever, he's so punchable!
                    I like how he's used the line "if that's all you have, then it means nothing" or "if that's all you have, then you have nothing". The problem is he's used that same line to MULTIPLE things that WSU has. Then its no longer "all you have" if you have multiple items. Sigh ...

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                    • Palm is Goatlube's hero.
                      "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                      • Originally posted by SHURTZtheHERTZ View Post
                        Just ignore the 200+ loses, because they beat UCLA!!!!!!

                        And they bench dances!!!!!!! That's got to count more than MOV!!!!!
                        A UCLA team that is on the verge of falling out of the RPI Top 100 .. UNI and Evansville are technically better wins than UCLA.

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                        • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                          A UCLA team that is on the verge of falling out of the RPI Top 100 .. UNI and Evansville are technically better wins than UCLA.
                          But...... UCLA and Georgetown???????

                          I agree with you, but when some people still hear those school's names it puts led in their pencil.
                          The Assman

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                          • Originally posted by SHURTZtheHERTZ View Post
                            But...... UCLA and Georgetown???????

                            I agree with you, but when some people still hear those school's names it puts led in their pencil.
                            Georgetown is sitting at 103 this morning in the RPI.

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                            • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                              Georgetown is sitting at 103 this morning in the RPI.
                              but they also beat notre dame (are they still ranked? not really sure)

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                              • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
                                but they also beat notre dame (are they still ranked? not really sure)
                                Yes .. that is their best win at RPI 37.

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