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  • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
    Any chance if WSU does get snubbed from the big dance, they tell the NIT thanks but no thanks?
    Marshall said after the loss that they would be playing again .. whether it was the NCAA or the NIT

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    • Originally posted by gdb620 View Post
      A #11 play-in seed isn't bad at all. You play 11, 6, and 3 seeds to get to the second weekend. Didn't VCU go to the final four from a play-in?
      Yes they did.

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      • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
        Any chance if WSU does get snubbed from the big dance, they tell the NIT thanks but no thanks?
        . I would hope not. I would think they'd play where invited and play to win.

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        • I disagree that UNI was a bad matchup this year.

          Here are WSU's 3 point shooting performances, and then margin of victory/defeat, in the 3 games this year. Note that WSU shoots 33% on the year, even after including Saturday's brick-fest.

          road - 8/15 (53%) ..... +19
          home - 7/31 (23%) ..... -3
          neutral - 2/24 (8%) ..... OT -5

          WSU would have won at UNI even if they went 4/15. The Shox dominated that game.
          WSU wins either of the other 2 games if they shoot 25% or better from 3. Heck, they win Saturday's game if they shoot 3/24 (13%).

          UNI didn't force WSU into tough 3s. If anything, the 3s WSU took in these losses were better than average looks. UNI played well enough to have a chance, but the fact remains that WSU goes 3-0 vs UNI merely by shooting BELOW AVERAGE, say 25-30%, on open 3s.

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          • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
            Any chance if WSU does get snubbed from the big dance, they tell the NIT thanks but no thanks?
            If they do this, I am taking it as carte blanche to leave the Roundhouse anytime of my choosing.
            “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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            • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
              Marshall said after the loss that they would be playing again .. whether it was the NCAA or the NIT
              That what I heard also. He might not be happy with NIT, but I'm sure he wants to get his young guys post-season experience for next year regardless of format and to continue to get better.

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              • Doesn't the NCAA now own the NIT, and you can no longer refuse to play in the NIT? You can only refuse the CBI or CIT, I think.
                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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                • If we don't make the Big Dance we can blame the bad luck of injuries to Fred, Anton and Landry but the bottom line is that we had our destiny in our own hands and quite frankly stumbled badly in the 3 losses to Illinois State and UNI. 3 games we could have and should have won considering the defense we played. I still think the Shocks will receive an at-large bid to the NCAA Tournament but if they don't the Shocks only have themselves to blame. A victim only of their own performance. Perhaps the pressure of having no room for error got to them. I don't know.

                  If I am wrong and the Shocks are left out of the NCAA I can get into the NIT. In fact, NIT games at home can be fun as hell and the worse thing we can do as fans is to turn our back on the Shocks. I don't think that will happen either. I am confident Shocker fans will be there for the Shocks come hell or high water.

                  If, as I expect (maybe hope), the Shocks do receive an at-large bid I would think that the valve on the pressure cooker the Shocks have been operating under will open wide and hopefully allow them to attack the NCAA free and loose.

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                  • I would have no interest in watching WSU in the NIT. It would just be too painful to watch Fred and Ron finish their careers in such a fashion.

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                    • Originally posted by shock-it-to-me View Post
                      I would have no interest in watching WSU in the NIT. It would just be too painful to watch Fred and Ron finish their careers in such a fashion.
                      I agree completely with that. And EW as well. After all the success they've had and what they've done in the big dance it'd be a damn shame. However, I would still watch every second like I do every other game if they were to play in the NIT.

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                      • Originally posted by jdmee View Post
                        http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-...eam-in-history

                        Good article about the Shoxs and the bubble. It basically state that the Shox are an interesting case, one where if you look strictly on the resume of the record WSU is probably on the outside looking in, however if you look at the whole picture and ask if WSU is one of the top teams in the country and those metrics, WSU should be in.
                        "the most polarizing bubble team ever"

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                        • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
                          I agree completely with that. And EW as well. After all the success they've had and what they've done in the big dance it'd be a damn shame. However, I would still watch every second like I do every other game if they were to play in the NIT.
                          Same here, I'd watch all the NIT games, and would refuse to watch the actual tourney. Not going to give them that 1 extra viewer. Even though it all goes into the same pocket.

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                          • Originally posted by jdmee View Post
                            http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-...eam-in-history

                            Good article about the Shoxs and the bubble. It basically state that the Shox are an interesting case, one where if you look strictly on the resume of the record WSU is probably on the outside looking in, however if you look at the whole picture and ask if WSU is one of the top teams in the country and those metrics, WSU should be in.
                            Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                            "the most polarizing bubble team ever"
                            Absolutely. If we should get in I would suggest not reading the comments attached to any articles addressing our inclusion. The "haters" will be coming out of the woodwork in droves. You'll live longer and happier by simply ignoring them.
                            Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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                            • This has now updated. In 70 of 86 brackets (81.4%) with an average seed of 9.87. Puts us as the 3rd 10 seed.

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                              • Originally posted by wusphlash View Post
                                Absolutely. If we should get in I would suggest not reading the comments attached to any articles addressing our inclusion. The "haters" will be coming out of the woodwork in droves. You'll live longer and happier by simply ignoring them.
                                If we get in I will drink deep from the chalice of hate. I don't care what anybody says if we just get in. Hell maybe we're the sith and need the fear, anger and hatred to realize our full potential.

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