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  • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
    Lunardi now has UNI and the other automatic qualifiers in...and still has Wichita as a 7. I don't understand how 2 or 3 experts can have such a difference of opinion.
    Link here.

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    • Originally posted by Horn28Clem30 View Post
      Lunardi now has UNI and the other automatic qualifiers in...and still has Wichita as a 7. I don't understand how 2 or 3 experts can have such a difference of opinion.
      Palms is obvious why he's off. He ignores analytics .. which is the biggest helping factor for WSU.

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      • Is that the same w/ sites such as USA Today (not sure who does the bracketology for them) who are also predicting first 4 out?

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        • Prepare yourself for the next seven days, because Wichita State is about to be subject to the most intense and debated at-large candidacy in recent memory. Maybe ever.


          Good article about the Shoxs and the bubble. It basically state that the Shox are an interesting case, one where if you look strictly on the resume of the record WSU is probably on the outside looking in, however if you look at the whole picture and ask if WSU is one of the top teams in the country and those metrics, WSU should be in.
          Last edited by jdmee; March 7, 2016, 12:35 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
            Link here.
            I'd be shocked if we are still a 7 seed. It is nice seeing that Joe thinks we are still squarely in. This whole situation reminds me so much of 2013. Our team, this bubble situation. I even specifically remember Bubble Watch moving us to a lock the week before and then after we lost to CU we had to deal with this the whole week. I think bracketologists have a click incentive to overreact to whatever happens with us in the first week. Otherwise, why would anyone even pay attention to bracketology until Tuesday or Wednesday.

            UNI as a 14 seems high, what poor 3 seed gets that draw?

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            • Originally posted by Heinro View Post
              I'd be shocked if we are still a 7 seed. It is nice seeing that Joe thinks we are still squarely in. This whole situation reminds me so much of 2013. Our team, this bubble situation. I even specifically remember Bubble Watch moving us to a lock the week before and then after we lost to CU we had to deal with this the whole week. I think bracketologists have a click incentive to overreact to whatever happens with us in the first week. Otherwise, why would anyone even pay attention to bracketology until Tuesday or Wednesday.

              UNI as a 14 seems high, what poor 3 seed gets that draw?
              UNI's KenPom is 79. Lunardi's other 3 #14 seeds have KenPom ratings of 71, 107, & 108. I would agree that UNI is hot right now, but overall, a #14 seems about right. #13 tops.

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              • Originally posted by Heinro View Post
                I'd be shocked if we are still a 7 seed. It is nice seeing that Joe thinks we are still squarely in. This whole situation reminds me so much of 2013. Our team, this bubble situation. I even specifically remember Bubble Watch moving us to a lock the week before and then after we lost to CU we had to deal with this the whole week. I think bracketologists have a click incentive to react to

                UNI as a 14 seems high, what poor 3 seed gets that draw?
                His other 7s are Seton Hall, Dayton, and Notre Dame, so I can't say that we are really out-classed by that group. However, I fully expect our semi-final loss to cost us, it's just a matter of how much. On the plus, UNI went ahead and won the Valley tourney (even if just barely). On the down side, prior to our loss I felt we'd be at least an 8, probably a 7, with an outside chance at a 6 if we had won out and a few thing went our way. Now, I feel that single loss could cost up to 4/5 seed lines at a 10 or 11. Plus, by losing, we also added to our problem by adding another team in we didn't expect to be a bubble killer.

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                • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                  UNI's KenPom is 79. Lunardi's other 3 #14 seeds have KenPom ratings of 71, 107, & 108. I would agree that UNI is hot right now, but overall, a #14 seems about right. #13 tops.
                  Yes sir, and this is why there is usually an upset or 2 on this seed line.
                  “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
                  -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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                  • I have no link, just a theory. My theory is that WSU gets put into one of 11 seed "play in" games. Your thoughts?
                    "Ralph Miller was one of the finest coaches in the history of intercollegiate basketball. His teams were always fundamentally sound, team oriented, well conditioned, and ran both their offense and defense with great patience. I know of no coach whose teams competed against his, whether it be at Wichita State, Iowa, or Oregon State, who did not have great respect for him."—John Wooden

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                    • Originally posted by insaneykaney View Post
                      I have no link, just a theory. My theory is that WSU gets put into one of 11 seed "play in" games. Your thoughts?
                      Honestly if they put us in the play in game as a way to prove we belong but a punishment for losing to UNI, i'd be fine w/ it. Better to have to earn it then be in the NIT

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                      • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                        UNI's KenPom is 79. Lunardi's other 3 #14 seeds have KenPom ratings of 71, 107, & 108. I would agree that UNI is hot right now, but overall, a #14 seems about right. #13 tops.
                        Yes, I recognize from an resume based standpoint, UNI may even deserve a 14. 11-9 vs 100+ can do that to you. Just meant from a team who has proven they can beat a team that is 3 seed caliber. Looking at the other 14's:

                        Hawaii has wins over UC Irvine x2 and UNI (even though I watched that late game, it was arguably the start of UNI's month of horribleness). They lost by 3 against OU at home.

                        Chattanooga has a win over Dayton and ETSU x2.

                        UAB has wins against MT x2 and SFA.

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                        • Originally posted by Heinro View Post
                          I'd be shocked if we are still a 7 seed. It is nice seeing that Joe thinks we are still squarely in. This whole situation reminds me so much of 2013.
                          We also got swept by Evansville that year. Sometimes there's just bad matchups.

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                          • A #11 play-in seed isn't bad at all. You play 11, 6, and 3 seeds to get to the second weekend. Didn't VCU go to the final four from a play-in?

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                            • Any chance if WSU does get snubbed from the big dance, they tell the NIT thanks but no thanks?

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                              • Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
                                And don't forget Investors Business Daily and Barrons! Actually, as weird as it sounds, one of those financial pubs could probably do an interesting article about predictive forums live Iowa Electronic Markets and how they view the basketball tournament.

                                By the way, 5150, you can send some of your stress my way if you have to -- I'm feeling none whatsoever.
                                Deal. :)

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