Emporia State game thread

[Blackmag]

Hamstrings can be a bear to get over, I know from my playing days many light years away. Hopefully Fred can rest it over Christmas break. I agree we might have a ruff time in our OOC schedual with Fred running on half a tank

[SB Shock]

He's just a bit insecure and expects WSU to be perfect all of the time every game. I implore you to look up and find his meltdown thread he started after the GW loss last year. It was epic.

VI Feves...... I can't believe you picked the shockers to lose against Tulsa... I'm really disappointed in you. Kisses.

[Aargh]

VI Feves...... I can't believe you picked the shockers to lose against Tulsa... I'm really disappointed in you. Kisses.

Please tell me you're gay. I'm not homophobic. I understand about guys who like guys. But, when I see straight guys offering to kiss other guys who I think are straight, it creeps me out just a bit.

[shockmonster]

I wasn't sure what to think about BWam. Totally unimpressed early. Thought he did well in the second half.

We were out rebounded in the first half by 6 or so and most of them were offensive rebounds by ESU. I'm sure that Marshall brought it up at half time and Bush definitely brought it in the second half, giving top shelf effort and top shelf motor. I haven't looked at the replay but none of the other big guys were close to bringing it like him. He took some steps forward. Now he needs to do it consistently.

[SB Shock]

Please tell me you're gay. I'm not homophobic. I understand about guys who like guys. But, when I see straight guys offering to kiss other guys who I think are straight, it creeps me out just a bit.

From Europe. It how we greet people.

[proshox]

I ran into a physical therapist tonight and asked him how long he would expect Fred to be out if he was the average athlete. His answer was six weeks or more.

I doubt Fred will wait that long, but I hope he takes the long run approach and tries to heal before playing again.

Zach Brown has to get his KU mojo.

[shockmonster]

I'd like to see McDuffie starting at the 3. Wessel just isn't doing anything for me this year. We need guys that can produce and McDuff provides nice passing and better rebounding.

I agree with Wufan. He's not ready yet. He makes some bad decisions with the ball and isn't physically strong enough to be a big factor, where Evan usually makes better decisions. I'm glad that Markis got some minutes today and hope we are in a place for him to get good minutes (usually won't happen). Brown isn't playing well either. As I said that other day, if Brown doesn't get it together, I think tahat Baker will be an answer at the 3 to go along with Wessel after FVV and Conner are ready to play.

[WstateU]

I ran into a physical therapist tonight and asked him how long he would expect Fred to be out if he was the average athlete. His answer was six weeks or more.

I doubt Fred will wait that long, but I hope he takes the long run approach and tries to heal before playing again.

Zach Brown has to get his KU mojo.

Would it be a NCAA violation if I ordered this for Fred? :)

http://www.pulled-muscle.com/treatment/pulled-hamstring-treatment-kit-LPi.php?kw=hamstring%20muscle%20tear&ag=hamstring+tear&gclid=CMH16eCLo8kCFQMJaQodLPMD2g

[ShockerPrez]

This team is not good in half court offense.

We are missing damn near all of our mid range jumpers and a lot of bunnies.

Not so easy to do, but we really need to get out in transition come hell or high water.

We have too many good ballers trying too hard to fit into a system. It just looks awkward. They are too good to stay in a funk for too long, but these last 2 games were fugly.

[wufan]

I agree with Wufan. He's not ready yet. He makes some bad decisions with the ball and isn't physically strong enough to be a big factor, where Evan usually makes better decisions. I'm glad that Markis got some minutes today and hope we are in a place for him to get good minutes (usually won't happen). Brown isn't playing well either. As I said that other day, if Brown doesn't get it together, I think tahat Baker will be an answer at the 3 to go along with Wessel after FVV and Conner are ready to play.

If one of Wessel/Brown/McDuffie don't step up, then Baker at the three when Frankamp is eligible.

[ShockerFever]

VI Feves...... I can't believe you picked the shockers to lose against Tulsa... I'm really disappointed in you. Kisses.

I actually picked them to win, moron.

Any other smackysmack you wanna lay me on with?

http://shockernet.net/forum/showthread.php?20826-WSU-Versus-Tulsa-Predictions-and-Pregame-Discussions&p=600127&viewfull=1#post600127

[ShockerFever]

From Europe. It how we greet people.

Let me guess, Amsterdam?

Awfully fruity over there.

[Ricardo del Rio]

My thoughts:

Our flow on offense is not good right now. This is the result of FVV hurt/playing at less than 100%. Ron is getting his, but the rest of the team is still figuring out their roles.We have consistently had 2-3 guys on the floor who look like they are thinking and not playing at game speed yet.

Getting FVV back at 100%, plus the addition of another scoring threat in Frankamp, will take a lot of pressure off the Freshman and Sophomore guards.

I really don't like how Zach Brown has played so far this year. I'm not sure if this is a confidence thing, but he looks lost on both ends of the court. He's fouling a lot and not making a noticeable impact on the offensive side of the ball.

Ty seems like an all or nothing guy right now, which is to be expected from a freshman guard. I find myself consistently responding in two ways to his play: "Yes!" and "Why?!" That will improve with experience.

I thought Eric had a ton of good energy when he entered in the 1st half. Then he faded and I didn't see him the rest of the game.

Good for BWam.

In the postgame, Gregg spoke about how important it is that each of the younger guys got at least 8 minutes or more today. Each game experience will continue to speed up our internal game clocks. This team is nowhere close to where they will be in a couple of months. FVV needs to get back to 100%, the freshman need to continue to gain experience and be put in situations where they can be successful, CF needs to be able to hit some shots, and we need another productive player in the post.

I have no idea how next week will go.

#10 had several one way conversations with Coach Marshall on the side.

[Ricardo del Rio]

1. I thought Big E was good in the first half, TomBush was not. Then the reverse in half #2.

2. Our offense sucks, it looks like we are missing our point guard.

3. ZacB is a long way from being a lockdown defender.

4. Kelly was ok, as was EW.

5. Tyrone Taylor gets yanked immediately after a mistake. Not so the others.

6. Shaq may very well finish his career elsewhere. I thought he had turned the corner.

7. Coach shoulda got a T.

8. Grady is good, even with a lackluster game today.

9. Baker's 31 will hang in the rafters someday.

10. 2-1 in Orlando would mean that Fred is healthy, or Marshall is a helluva coach.

#24 had some ole defense going today. One was really awful.

[SHOXAAC]

Have you watched on switches or hedges? More importantly have you sat in on practices?

Or are you just being a smartass?

Like the hell out of you brother, but you are off the reservation on this one. Grady will be much better than Carter.