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  • Originally posted by proshox View Post
    8 turnovers is a big number, but the pace of that game was bound to increase the number of turnovers.
    Which player on the floor, would you say, is in charge of the pace of a game?

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    • Originally posted by proshox View Post
      8 turnovers is a big number, but the pace of that game was bound to increase the number of turnovers.
      Maryland had 22 turnovers last night, 8 by the freaking point guard. This against a team not necessarily known for defense or forcing turnovers. I can go dig up hundreds of box scores so far this year that have been played at the same "pace" and show far fewer turnovers than the clip Maryland was putting running up last night.

      He's a turnover machine. Period.
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      • Trimble is such garbage

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        • Originally posted by _kai_ View Post
          Trimble is such garbage

          https://vine.co/v/iWO2jM7qPF1
          Do you have the clip of him fumbling the ball down his legs, handing UNC an easy layup the play before?
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          • Originally posted by _kai_ View Post
            Trimble is such garbage

            https://vine.co/v/iWO2jM7qPF1
            I'm not on the 'garbage' train, but just because they don't make turnover highlight reels doesn't mean they don't happen or matter. Aside from the 8 turnovers, he had a very good game. His assist number looks great, though I'm not sure he can count on his team shooting 65% from 3 until the last 2 minutes in every game. Still, 8 is an insane-high number, and as great as that crossover was his team did end up losing.

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            • Originally posted by _kai_ View Post
              Trimble is such garbage

              https://vine.co/v/iWO2jM7qPF1
              They kept replaying that, but wasn't even that good of a crossover. The defense just tripped.

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              • Just reviewed some of their KenPom stats. Trimble is a better offensive threat in terms of scoring the ball, but definitely does turn it over more (5% higher turnover rate, which, while significant, doesn't make him a turnover machine by any stretch).

                Fred is probably the better overall point guard by a little bit, but it depends what you need. If you don't have a ton of other offensive threats, Trimble might be the best option. If you need a facilitator to get the ball to scorers, FVV would be the best option.

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                • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                  They kept replaying that, but wasn't even that good of a crossover. The defense just tripped.
                  Uh, that's what makes a good crossover, when you get the defender going one way and put him on his ass because he tried to go the other way. It was a great crossover, fo sho.

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                  • Originally posted by shockerfanmas View Post
                    Uh, that's what makes a good crossover, when you get the defender going one way and put him on his ass because he tried to go the other way. It was a great crossover, fo sho.
                    Great crossovers are when you are one on one with a person and you cause him to trip. Not when that person is sprinting around a screen already off balance. It was a good move, but not a godly move like the media made it. Any change of direction would have made him fall.

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                    • I was afraid Jay Bilas was going to cry if the Terps didn't win. His love affair with Trimble is beyond a man crush. That being said, I think "Car"Melo is a great scorer and a great athlete. I just don't think he's an elite POINTGUARD.
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                      • The Gremlins (SLU) are getting clobbered by Morehead St., 38-15 at the start of the 2nd half.

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                        • They're looking ahead to their Super Bowl aren't they? Lol
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                          • New Mexico State leading UTEP by 4 in the second half

                            Notre Dame trailing Illinois by 8 at halftime.

                            Iowa down to Florida State by 1 at halftime.

                            Utah and BYU just starting.

                            Tulsa beat OSU in Stillwater by 10.

                            Morehead beats Saint Louis by 20.

                            Seton Hall lost at GWU.
                            Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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                            • Originally posted by wusphlash View Post
                              New Mexico State leading UTEP by 4 in the second half

                              Notre Dame trailing Illinois by 8 at halftime.

                              Iowa down to Florida State by 1 at halftime.

                              Utah and BYU just starting.

                              Tulsa beat OSU in Stillwater by 10.

                              Morehead beats Saint Louis by 20.

                              Seton Hall lost at GWU.
                              Hope Iowa can come back. Seton Hall loss sucks. Glad to see Tulsa beating a Little 12 team.
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                              • I have a feeling that all of our losses are going to turn out to be not so bad. Our schedule will end up being fairly strong and it will all work out.

                                It's gonna be so fun watching the ship turn back in the right direction. It's gonna make WSU an even more popular team this year.

                                I can't wait to watch Fred again. Does anyone else remember the last minute or two of the first half against Tulsa? Think that may have helped us pull out of a couple of those one-possession games in Florida?

                                Yeah

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