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  • Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
    These big man athletic projects in our program recently have underperformed IMO because each didn't begin playing competitive BB till their early-mid teens. BB is a game of feel and nuances that takes years to understand and execute. It is not their fault. The kids themselves are awesome. It's just a bad experiment I hope the staff has learned from.
    You take the good with the bad on these players. What HCGM asks of them is to protect the rim, rebound, and set screens. They aren't going to score a lot of points and might end up with more turn overs than field goals, but they make the offense and defense rum smoothly.
    Livin the dream

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    • I don't see Shaq as an NBA guy unless he develops a Charles Barkley like game. I do see a Jai Lewis/JT Durley type career where he uses his strength and athleticism to dominate the taller opposition as an upperclassmen.
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      • He not only has the potential, but the build to have a Charles Barkley type of game. His biggest question is will he put in the work or not? IMO his biggest limit will be his work ethic. Work hard and be the best PF in 30 years + here or mail it in and be more like Durley. It will depend on his work ethic and attitude.

        I remember when Karl Malone expected to be the 1st round draft pick for Dallas, who instead picked Detlef Schrenpf. He never forgot that and he never let Dallas forget it.

        That's the kind of work ethic he will need. The jury's still pout on whether he has that level of work ethic, and I can understand doubters.

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        • Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
          That is a wide range of minutes. Based on his points per minute, at 22 minutes, he is at 4 points and 5.5 rebounds. at 10 minutes, only1.8 and 2.5
          I just noticed...sorry. I ment 10-12 minutes. You should know, it's not what I type, it's what I thought I typed.

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          • Originally posted by wufan View Post
            You take the good with the bad on these players. What HCGM asks of them is to protect the rim, rebound, and set screens. They aren't going to score a lot of points and might end up with more turn overs than field goals, but they make the offense and defense rum smoothly.
            I still would rather have a post with more than just half a game. I going to call that lame coaching staff on Monday and let them know my feelings. I promise this thing will be fixed by end of business on Tuesday.

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            • Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
              If he can play some D and we get improvement out of the others, that may be enough. We need him for some good post D, set some screens, and rebound. The rest is lagniappe.
              You thought you were going to slip lagniappe by us didn't you? You gotta get up pretty early in the afternoon to get me off my game with lagniappe. My question is how many times in your life have you used it in a sentence in the presence of somebody with a pulse?

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              • Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                I still would rather have a post with more than just half a game. I going to call that lame coaching staff on Monday and let them know my feelings. I promise this thing will be fixed by end of business on Tuesday.
                I would too. That's next level, national championship type stuff. Those guys don't usually land outside of KU, UK, UCLA, Duke, Indiana, Zona, Florida, or Ohio State. You have to find the rough cut diamond and hope you can polish it in 2 years.
                Livin the dream

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                • It is now time to join the next level.

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                  • Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                    I don't think it ever hurts to give a big an extra year. Paul Miller and Garret Stutz both would have benefited. More time to work on footwork and hit the weights.

                    If you're correct, Nurger will not be a major contributor until he's a senior. That qualifies to me as a bust, based on expectations coming in when he signed.
                    I don't doubt that it would have been better for us but I don't know how Nurger feels about being a 26 year or senior. He has skill that suit the international game and would think he would like to play closer to home sooner than later.

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                    • if we get 20 minutes from big Bush and 20 minutes from little Bush we will finish 4th in the Valley.

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                      • Originally posted by 60Shock View Post
                        It is now time to join the next level.
                        Amen
                        You miss 100% of the shots you don't take....

                        .....but, statistically speaking, you miss 99% of the shots you do take.

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                        • The best way to get to the "next level" is to keep recruiting bigs with potential until one sticks. Once you've demonstrated you can develop them, they all become interested in playing for your program.
                          Livin the dream

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                          • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                            The best way to get to the "next level" is to keep recruiting bigs with potential until one sticks. Once you've demonstrated you can develop them, they all become interested in playing for your program.
                            I would agree. As I have said before IMO the reason EO and now Bush didn't/haven't come close to setting the world on fire is (and not their fault) they didn't come to competitive basketball till well into their teens. In America the standard players been playing basketball at very early ages. During those formulate years players learn the nuances of the game, which gives them insight as they develop over many years. Players like EO and Bush, who didn't learn the nuances and insights make simple actions look robotic, mechanical and stiff. The opposition, therefore, can anticipate more easily. ITS NOT THEIR FAULT.

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                            • Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                              You thought you were going to slip lagniappe by us didn't you? You gotta get up pretty early in the afternoon to get me off my game with lagniappe. My question is how many times in your life have you used it in a sentence in the presence of somebody with a pulse?
                              You live in wichita, I live in Houston. Is wichita closer to Lousiana or Houston.? Unless you grew up in lake Charles. Yourenpicking a fight you can't win. BTW. For you shockernetrers who don't know, lagniappe means 'something extra' in Cajun.

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                              • Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                                You live in wichita, I live in Houston. Is wichita closer to Lousiana or Houston.? Unless you grew up in lake Charles. Yourenpicking a fight you can't win. BTW. For you shockernet ears who don't know, lagniappe means 'something extra' in Cajun.
                                Switch to decaf.
                                :-)

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