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Originally posted by Rlh04d View PostYou are incorrect.
WSU: #10. KU: #13.
We simply are the better team this year. We beat them on the court, and, over the course of the full season, we were the better, more efficient team, when adjusted for quality of competition.
I don't know/care whether you're a Johnny-come-lately or being a troll. WSU is the better team, and it's almost impossible to argue that.
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Originally posted by ShockerInLawrence View PostIt does feel good, though I try to tune out the condescending pricks. Every fanbase has 'em. I apologize if you feel like I've been a d*ck to you or anyone else here; it's not the time for that. It's time to celebrate and look forward to a huge game (or two) next weekend.
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Originally posted by ShockerInLawrence View PostNoted, and hats off to you for your relative civility, sir. I'm not sure I'm into the whole keep-"edgy"-opinions-to-yourself thing. There's nothing particularly edgy about claiming one top 10 team is better than another, even if the other is my team anyway. I never said the moon and the stars had to align. Not once. Kansas didn't execute as well as we did today. That's not entirely due to our disruptive style. That's the sum of my argument. There are several teams that I estimate to be better than us this year. That doesn't mean we can't beat them. It doesn't mean everything has to go wrong for us to beat them. It means that I think we would lose more often than not, given a sufficient sample size. Last year, that pool was smaller (basically just Arizona and Florida).
This really isn't a crazy opinion. Perhaps the timing is not great, but I didn't mean to start this argument. I'm proud of this team and eager to see them beat ND next weekend.
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Originally posted by ShockerInLawrence View PostI like KenPom, but his rankings aren't gospel. BPI, Sagarin, a couple other less-recognized metrics say otherwise. It's too close to call definitively, in my mind, and so you have to defer to personal conclusions.
Sagarin hasn't been updated to account for this game yet. KenPom has.
The statistics are close enough that you can have a "too close to call" mindset. But not when a neutral court matchup is won decisively. That settles any ambiguity.
If a team loses to a team they were clearly better than statistically, sure, you can argue that. But every team WSU has beat in the NCAA tournament has magically "not played their best." Damn we're lucky. Or, you know, one of the best statistical defenses in the country continuously makes teams not play their best. That would be a more rational argument.Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by DJ06Shocker View PostIf a win when it counts in a head to head post season matchup on a neutral floor doesn't mean one team is the better team, I don't know what else does unless we are just dealing with "name on the jersey" bias. Part of what defines a better team is showing up when it counts at the end of a season. That's why you play the game. It just is what it is.
Sorry your team didn't seize the moment and ours did. That's called being better. The teams that win the games get the titles.
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Originally posted by shockerfanmas View PostNope he's like this all the time
Go hump a monkey.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Originally posted by DJ06Shocker View PostI completely agree that if we beat Kentucky, that doesn't mean we are the better team. However, it does mean we advance! I would say we are fairly equal to KU, though. My objective side would say that most top 10 teams are very evenly matched. I'm just really hoping we can get and stay hot! We may need another 50% from three kinda game to hang with UK if we get past ND.
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Originally posted by ShockerFever View PostIs that what you came to do after a WSU win over KU tonight? To get butthurt on how I make you cry? I thought you were ignoring everything about me and I wasn't gonna get to you?
Go hump a monkey.
I was simply answering his question is all. I sincerely hope you get the anger management you need. Have a nice night sir. Or ma'am, whatever you are
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