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Originally posted by WuShock16
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I expect them to return ,, they come from a well off family , and their parents have stated several time it's not about them needin money (because they don't) they want their boys to get an education. Only bright spot in what appears to be a very bad weekend for the boys actions.From the road I listen (Tune In radio) at home I watch ( season Ticks ) -
Guess I should have specified the portion I was referring too. "Look, I'm all for giving people a pass for emotional responses" I don't think that's even remotely close to the Norm for this day and age. case in point ,,just about any utterance from the hollywierd and political idiots . Once it's uttered the Media ride it to death ,, no matter if there is or was an apology, that just ends up a was it sincere or was it too late ,too soon ? circus. if the opinion is that the truth comes out when drunk or in the heat of the moment ,,then that's the standard to live bye. if not then anybody should be able to say anything in "in the heat of the moment" without repercussions. Just sayin lolFrom the road I listen (Tune In radio) at home I watch ( season Ticks )Comment
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I am tired of these types of apologies,"First I want to apologize for my poor choice of words used in jest towards a player I respect and know," Harrison tweeted. "When I realized how this could be perceived I immediately called big frank to apologize and let him know I didn't mean any disrespect."
First, could somebody explain the joke or is the "words used in jest" just a bunch of BS to try to minimize what was actually said? And is he sorry about what he said or by how some people could perceive what he said? So is it wrong what he said or is it wrong that I perceived what he said wrong?
What happened to the I did it, I was wrong and I'm sorry apologies? Who cares about how it is perceived, or if anybody was hurt or offended.Comment
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A black kid calling a white kid a "n*****" is not the same as a white kid calling a black kid a "n****". Maybe it should be treated the same, but that is just not the reality of the situtation. If Frank and said "f*** that cracker" would it be the same as if he had said "f*** that n****"? No, because Andrew isn't white. If you call a homosexual a "******", then it's a hate filled hurtful comment. If you call your brother a "******" then, while still vulgar and wrong, it is just an insult. The real problem I have is the "f*** that" portion of the comment. That's what demonstrates malice to me.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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it is exactly this type of thinking that is wrong. It is either wrong or it is not. This is a black and white issue in more ways than one and it is wrong. Regardless of who is using the word.Originally posted by kochHead View PostLast edited by DUShock; April 6, 2015, 12:54 PM. Reason: Not Kochheads post but the process described.“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor JonesComment
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They should have sent them to Duke instead. Hell, they could have stayed in the state and went to UT.Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View Post
Both MUCH better academic schools the UK (as are several other basketball schools)The AssmanComment
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This is what I think. I speak as someone who is really not that offended, and I agree with @kochHead as well. I think fairness matters a little bit here, even though I know the two perspectives are not the same. It's really hard to gain any ground on an issue when you have double standards. No one on either side will take it very seriously. The bigger issue in this particular situation is that the player was a jerk, and even that should be talked about by the media. Sportsmanship is important to the integrity of the game. How lame is it that a player (for a university that already continually annoys NCAA fans by how they grab up the best talent) gets on TV and acts horribly and effectively backs up the way people already feel. If I had a legitimate concern, it's about sportsmanship. As for the other issue, I just don't want to keep having to live in a society that lets one guy off the hook, but not another guy. We don't KNOW that a white kid who says the N word is truly a racist just because he said it. He may have been just telling a bad joke or exercising bad judgment in much the same way, but he will burn whereas the Harrison kid won't barely even have to face any criticism.Originally posted by DUShock View PostComment
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This turn of events really bothers me. We should just let the whole "F that N" thing go to bed, and instead, concentrate on prematurely crafted tattoos.
CBzGNBmUkAMNKX7.jpgThere are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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I agree that this double standard should not exist and the use of racial slurs is wrong. However, when it comes to how wrong something is, context and circumstances are everything.Originally posted by DUShock View Post“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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He also had "No ragrets"Originally posted by MoValley John View PostThis turn of events really bothers me. We should just let the whole "F that N" thing go to bed, and instead, concentrate on prematurely crafted tattoos.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. SeussComment
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I don't see this as a double standard as much as a double meaning. It's just that the phrase means one thing in black culture and other in white. A black saying that, however wrong and inappropriate, and whether it is said about or directed to a white guy or another black, takes on an entirely different meaning if it were a white dude saying it to a black. Different cultures and until you can get the blacks to quit using the N word themselves, this type of incident is going to continue happening.Originally posted by kochHead View PostComment
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It was a disrespectful thing to say whether you insert clown for ni____ or something else and was ignored by most in the media. To add the act of not shaking hands should have made it a BIG news item.Comment
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I agree. And common sense would tell us the "in jest" part was an attempt to mask his true intent. I have a very hard time believing Mr. Harrison was in any mood to kid around minutes after losing their perfect season in the Final Four. His apology may have been sincere, but he shouldn't try to save face by insulting our intelligence.Originally posted by jdmee View Post
It would be interesting to see what would happen if the person being offended didn't accept an arguably insincere apology.Comment
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To be honest I think this is silly.Originally posted by DUShock View Post
A racial slur only has power against the race where it's intended as a slur. The word is not wrong in and of itself. The word is wrong because it's been used for centuries as a part of dehumanization of a group of people based on the color of their skin.
The word has no meaning when it's used towards a white guy ... literally none.
The word existed before white racists co-opted it. The word is not wrong -- the word when used with racial prejudice is wrong. The problem is that white people abused the word as part of racial prejudice for so long that we've lost the right to get the benefit of the doubt on its usage.Originally posted by BleacherReportComment
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