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  • Wisconsin deserves the #1 over Ohio State. Wisconsin has more quality wins which = higher rpi. Wins vs ranked Florida and ROAD wins versus St. Louis and UVA will beat Ohio State's road win versus Marquette. Wisconsin beat Marquette as well. If Ohio State beats Michigan St. Jan 7, I'll put them as a #1 seed. I'm not going to seed two teams as a #1 from the same conference. The likelihood that that will actually happen is remote. We'll agree to disagree.

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    • Originally posted by EBracket View Post
      I'm not going to seed two teams as a #1 from the same conference.
      LOL

      Facts be damned.

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      • Originally posted by EBracket View Post
        I'm not going to seed two teams as a #1 from the same conference. The likelihood that that will actually happen is remote. We'll agree to disagree.
        Way, way, way, way, way back in 2009 the Big East had three #1 seeds (UConn, Pitt and Louisville)

        In 2006, the Big East had two #1 seeds (UConn and Villanova)

        In 2003, the Big 12 had OU and Texas .

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        • Originally posted by ABC View Post
          Way, way, way, way, way back in 2009 the Big East had three #1 seeds (UConn, Pitt and Louisville)

          In 2006, the Big East had two #1 seeds (UConn and Villanova)

          In 2003, the Big 12 had OU and Texas .

          Sounds like we are due. We'll see how it shapes up by March.

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          • Originally posted by Steeleshocker View Post
            Ok, if you are projecting to the end of the season I can see where some of your reasoning comes in. I don't like that, as projecting that far into the future makes a lot of assumptions regarding team development. But I can understand it.

            If Kansas somehow wins the big 12 this year they will be fully deserving of a one seed. That league is murder this year. But for them to do that we are going to have to see them perform consistently at a level we have not yet seen, and making that protection is a huge assumption, imo.

            However, there are some inconsistencies with that protection. For example, Louisville hasn't beaten a good team yet this year and now are without key contributor Behanan. How can you project then to be a 3 seed?

            Also, Oklahoma State is now without center Cobbins for the season, while he was not a big scorer, that makes OSU extremely thin up front. They will have a lot of trouble with big string teams like Texas. Hell, Kansas State's Gibson will probably have a lot of success. I know they have one of the top guard tandems in the nation, but projecting that sort of success is a bit of a gamble. Now, as of today they fully deserve a 3 seed, but I would expect them to fall a bit by season's end.

            Also, how do you project WSU to end the season. If they have 2 or fewer losses, I can't see them being worse than a 3 seed. And if you count on teams like Kansas improving,I would also expect WSU to improve as well (as is documented extensively on this board).

            As you can see from my comments, I just don't think projecting is a very fair assessment, and takes way too many assumptions. And it seems some teams you project to get better, while other teams should be worse off based on injuries and dismissals, but are treated based on current success.

            Isn't the tournament which he's attempting to predict played in March/April? A prediction for March/April made on games already played are a projected bracket for a Jan 1 tournament as opposed to what the scorecard will look like in March/April.
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            • Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
              Isn't the tournament which he's attempting to predict played in March/April? A prediction for March/April made on games already played are a projected bracket for a Jan 1 tournament as opposed to what the scorecard will look like in March/April.
              True, which is why I concede it would look different than what I would bracket. But the problem is he speculates on some teams improving dramatically when there is no body of work to support it currently. Current rankings and rpi's are the measures to indicate what is supported by on court performance. Other than expected schedule strength, I don't know how someone can make those sorts of wild assumptions.

              All this to say, it's a blog post and doesn't really matter, but it's a lot more interesting to debate this than talk about some other things that are regular topics on here.
              You miss 100% of the shots you don't take....

              .....but, statistically speaking, you miss 99% of the shots you do take.

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              • r/cringe
                The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                • This will hopefully be my last comment about this gal's bracketology.

                  BTW this is the same lady that had #6 WSU playing #11 Indiana State in Indianapolis in an earlier version. That coupled with ignorance about two teams from the same conference being able to receive #1 seeds make me think she needs to do a little more research.

                  Anyway, she has Ohio State as a #2 seed and WSU as a #4 seed. Ohio State does have one top #100 road victory at Notre Dame. Currently they have five top 100 wins (71, 94, 30, 100 and 95). WSU had five top 100 wins (34,48,72,59 and 92)

                  I am also confused about this: does this bracketologist use where the teams would be seeded today or at the end of the season? Seems like she is using either/or to suit her fancy.

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                  • Originally posted by EBracket View Post
                    I'm not going to seed two teams as a #1 from the same conference. The likelihood that that will actually happen is remote. We'll agree to disagree.
                    Wow. Just a whole lot of dumbassness going on here.

                    By the way, WSU and Indiana State play in the same conference.
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                    • Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
                      Isn't the tournament which he's attempting to predict played in March/April? A prediction for March/April made on games already played are a projected bracket for a Jan 1 tournament as opposed to what the scorecard will look like in March/April.
                      THIS guy gets it.

                      As my blog does say, ...FORECASTING the field of 68. As for my methodology, I do use a combination of RPI data.
                      Last edited by EBracket; January 1, 2014, 07:19 PM.

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                      • A ban coupled with a Hindenburg .gif would be well-timed and much appreciated here.

                        Least effective spambot ever.

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                        • Originally posted by EBracket View Post
                          THIS guy gets it.

                          As my blog does say, ...FORECASTING the field of 68. As for my methodology, I do use a combination of RPI data.
                          Does the other part of your methodology involve a dart board?
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                          • Originally posted by EBracket View Post
                            THIS guy gets it.

                            As my blog does say, ...FORECASTING the field of 68. As for my methodology, I do use a combination of RPI data.
                            I do get what forecasting/prediting is. That doesn't mean what you've done has much basis in fact. Seems pretty random to me.
                            "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
                            ---------------------------------------
                            Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
                            "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

                            A physician called into a radio show and said:
                            "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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                            • Originally posted by EBracket View Post
                              THIS guy gets it.

                              As my blog does say, ...FORECASTING the field of 68. As for my methodology, I do use a combination of RPI data.
                              But you said you placed Wisconsin above OSU based on what they've both done so far. So which is it?

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                              • Originally posted by ABC View Post
                                But you said you placed Wisconsin above OSU based on what they've both done so far. So which is it?
                                CHECK MATE.

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