2013-2014 Bracketology

[shox1989]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...ce-predictions

Not bracketology, but preseason predictions by CBS's main guys.

No surprises really with the Valley picks.

I really like Jon Rothstein's Big East picks though. I think he's right on the money with that one. :good:

I like that the article included the Valley as one of the country's 11 "major" conferences!

[Wuzee]

I'm kind of torn on the Big Priest predictions. Would success for Creighton this season accrue to the reputation and validity of WSU's program and possibly make us a more attractive for future realignment? If so, would that value outweigh the satisfaction of watching the Jays crash and burn and end up mulling whether to accept a CBI bid?

I can't decide.

I do know this though: After this season, during which I'll follow them casually out of curiosity, they'll be about as relevant to me as Hofstra. :)

[SubGod22]

I'm kind of torn on the Big Priest predictions. Would success for Creighton this season accrue to the reputation and validity of WSU's program and possibly make us a more attractive for future realignment? If so, would that value outweigh the satisfaction of watching the Jays crash and burn and end up mulling whether to accept a CBI bid?

I can't decide.

I do know this though: After this season, during which I'll follow them casually out of curiosity, they'll be about as relevant to me as Hofstra. :)

I'm not sure how it would do anything for us one way or the other. They've simply been a good program that doesn't do anything. I think we won more tournament games last year than they've ever won. We're two different programs that go about things two different ways. I really don't care if they fail or succeed this season. They're going to struggle without the big guy, and even more so next year when they lose SoW and the 10th year SR.

[wu_shizzle]

I'm not sure how it would do anything for us one way or the other. They've simply been a good program that doesn't do anything. I think we won more tournament games last year than they've ever won. We're two different programs that go about things two different ways. I really don't care if they fail or succeed this season. They're going to struggle without the big guy, and even more so next year when they lose SoW and the 10th year SR.

Looking at their future trajectory, they'll be longing for the days of P'Allen Stinnett in no time.

[Wuzee]

I'm not sure how it would do anything for us one way or the other. They've simply been a good program that doesn't do anything. I think we won more tournament games last year than they've ever won. We're two different programs that go about things two different ways. I really don't care if they fail or succeed this season. They're going to struggle without the big guy, and even more so next year when they lose SoW and the 10th year SR.

I guess my question is actually based on the converse -- that a spectacular failure on their part might raise questions about whether a Valley team can compete in a higher-level conference over the course of a full season. If that idea becomes entrenched, the F4 run could be dismissed as WSU just catching lightning in a bottle, and possibly make us less attractive. If they do well, we might be validated and hence made more attractive (although to a much lesser extent, I'm sure, given the BCS mentality.)

[RoyalShock]

I guess my question is actually based on the converse -- that a spectacular failure on their part might raise questions about whether a Valley team can compete in a higher-level conference over the course of a full season. If that idea becomes entrenched, the F4 run could be dismissed as WSU just catching lightning in a bottle, and possibly make us less attractive. If they do well, we might be validated and hence made more attractive (although to a much lesser extent, I'm sure, given the BCS mentality.)

I don't think this season will have much influence on that opinion. The real test will be to see if CU can parlay their new association with higher-profile programs to improve their recruiting. Check back in three to four years when this and next year's recruiting classes are the primary players.

[Shox21]

Creighton's success or failure should have no bearing on how WSU is perceived. WSU will make their own destiny, good or bad, on their own merit and with their own program and way of doing things. Just win and everything will fall into place and Marshall will have his own Gonzaga-like program, and that aspiration ain't bad at all.

[WSUwatcher]

Just win and everything will fall into place and Marshall will have his own Gonzaga-like program...

Only better -- Marshall's has been to the Final Four.

[EBracket]

Hi everyone,

Contrats on your run so far. Below is my updated bracket. I update at least once a week and will update again tomorrow morning. Thanks for visiting the site throughout the previous months and good luck with your run down the road:

http://www.explorertownbracketologist.com

[Steeleshocker]

Hi everyone,

Contrats on your run so far. Below is my updated bracket. I update at least once a week and will update again tomorrow morning. Thanks for visiting the site throughout the previous months and good luck with your run down the road:

http://www.explorertownbracketologist.com

Pretty weak sauce. First, Kansas as a 1? Have you seen them play? Have you seen their losses? Sure, they have potential, but they have not at all played like a 1 seed should play.

Second, Louisville had to have the weakest schedule out of the top tier of teams, lost to their only decent opponents, and now no longer have Chane Behanan.

Duke is a completely weak team this year. Defense is porous, and they just try to ourscore people.

All three of these teams should be seeded below or well below where you currently have them. Honestly, Ohio State should be about a four seed if you have WSU there because the schedule strength is roughly the same and they have played fewer away games than the Shockers.

End rant.

[EBracket]

Pretty weak sauce. First, Kansas as a 1? Have you seen them play? Have you seen their losses? Sure, they have potential, but they have not at all played like a 1 seed should play.

Second, Louisville had to have the weakest schedule out of the top tier of teams, lost to their only decent opponents, and now no longer have Chane Behanan.

Duke is a completely weak team this year. Defense is porous, and they just try to ourscore people.

All three of these teams should be seeded below or well below where you currently have them. Honestly, Ohio State should be about a four seed if you have WSU there because the schedule strength is roughly the same and they have played fewer away games than the Shockers.

End rant.

First, I project Kansas to win the Big 12. They benefit from Wisconsin being a #1 seed. Wisconsin had wins versus #15 Florida and Marquette. Road wins versus St. Louis and Virginia. They deserve the #1 seed out of the Big 10. Because Ohio State can't be a #1 seed since Wisconsin took it, then Kansas moves up. Big 12 is one of the strongest conferences this year in the country. Duke wins the ACC. I'll let Pitino prove me wrong that Louisville won't win the AAC.

Thanks for looking.

[wsushox1]

Pretty weak sauce. First, Kansas as a 1? Have you seen them play? Have you seen their losses? Sure, they have potential, but they have not at all played like a 1 seed should play.

Second, Louisville had to have the weakest schedule out of the top tier of teams, lost to their only decent opponents, and now no longer have Chane Behanan.

Duke is a completely weak team this year. Defense is porous, and they just try to ourscore people.

All three of these teams should be seeded below or well below where you currently have them. Honestly, Ohio State should be about a four seed if you have WSU there because the schedule strength is roughly the same and they have played fewer away games than the Shockers.

End rant.

Don't get me wrong, you are right about a lot of things in that post but....

Duke by and large will outscore people this year - and most every year for that matter. Very offensively talented this year.

Kansas is starting to play better offensively and they have plenty of opportunities for signature wins the rest of the year out. The Big 12 might, from top to bottom, be the strongest conference in America this year. The "have you seen their losses" is a poor argument to make as well. Have you? Villanova, at Florida, and at Colorado. It is very possible WSU would be 0-3 in that stretch of games as well. One will never know. Just have to win the games on your schedule.

Louisville is not overwhelmingly good this year. That is true. They won by around 20 today at a poor UCF team and gave up 18 offensive rebounds. I think we'd certainly beat them this year.

Ohio State hasn't yet played anyone.....but they will in the Big Ten.

I certainly don't think Kansas can earn a 1 seed, but with their SOS and RPI they could.

[Play Angry]

Bracket projections based almost entirely on how the author thinks the season will play out, instead of emphasizing where things stand at the moment, strike me as a little silly. It is of course necessary to do things that way in the pre-season or the first few weeks, but not when a significant sample size is available to judge with.

I will just file this one in the "some guy's guess as to who will get hot and win their conference" column instead of "bracket expert providing a state of the union." I prefer the latter.

[ABC]

First, I project Kansas to win the Big 12. They benefit from Wisconsin being a #1 seed. Wisconsin had wins versus #15 Florida and Marquette. Road wins versus St. Louis and Virginia. They deserve the #1 seed out of the Big 10. Because Ohio State can't be a #1 seed since Wisconsin took it, then Kansas moves up. Big 12 is one of the strongest conferences this year in the country. Duke wins the ACC. I'll let Pitino prove me wrong that Louisville won't win the AAC.

Thanks for looking.

First, St. Louis vs. Wisconsin was at a neutral site

Second, why can't two teams from the same conference (OSU and Wisconsin) both be #1 seeds? Answer: they can.

WSU at #4 is low.

[EBracket]

First, St. Louis vs. Wisconsin was at a neutral site

Second, why can't two teams from the same conference (OSU and Wisconsin) both be #1 seeds? Answer: they can.

WSU at #4 is low.

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“It is important we avoid the top teams from leagues receiving multiple bids to the tournament from playing one another when they are seeded in the first quadrant,” said Wellman in the NCAA release. “But after those first four lines are seeded, we want to remain as true to the seed lines as possible.”