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  • You guys have to understand, Creighton fans are in a lot of pain right now. They had to watch us be successful in the postseason while they, yet again, lost early on. They also had to watch their former coach, who IIRC claimed that he would never leave Creighton, make a trip to the Sweet Sixteen, something Creighton fans can really only dream of at this point. They're hurting right now.

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    • Originally posted by MadaboutWu View Post
      Right, why are they even citing final fours? The only true measure of success is conference affiliation. Or maybe tv contract.
      Attendance. It's all about attendance.

      That's why roughly 50% of season tickets in the Quiet Center go for the massive sum of $200/seat with no fund contribution requirements. It's why they ironically have 17K butts-in-seats for a lot of games, but a message board with 12 active members about 2 new threads per week on average. The Fighting Sweater Vest followers are about as casual and detached a fan base as you can find in D1.

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      • You have a 55 page thread going about getting out of a conference, and we're the ones hurting? And apparently there's another with five pages about Doug envy, even though we're no longer in the conference? Um, OK.

        We at sCUm are excited about the future, and rightfully so. Let's be truthful here: laugh all you want, you'd still give a testicle to be out of the Valley. Our ceiling has been removed, and nothing that is stated on this board has any impact going forward. So please, get your fill now, because as much as you're gleefully reporting that we're setting ourselves up for a fall, you are unknowningly doing the same.

        Lose to Texas and Tennessee and you can kiss a path to the Tourney goodbye, unless you somehow break through in St Louis.

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        • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
          You have a 55 page thread going about getting out of a conference, and we're the ones hurting? And apparently there's another with five pages about Doug envy, even though we're no longer in the conference? Um, OK.

          We at sCUm are excited about the future, and rightfully so. Let's be truthful here: laugh all you want, you'd still give a testicle to be out of the Valley. Our ceiling has been removed, and nothing that is stated on this board has any impact going forward. So please, get your fill now, because as much as you're gleefully reporting that we're setting ourselves up for a fall, you are unknowningly doing the same.

          Lose to Texas and Tennessee and you can kiss a path to the Tourney goodbye, unless you somehow break through in St Louis.
          With no ceiling, making it out of the first round should be a breeze then shouldnt it?
          YOUSUCKITPOX

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          • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
            ...
            Once I saw some clown from here mentioning something from the bluejay forum I knew roaches would follow. Seriously go back to your site, and for the few on here that read over there, keep it to yourself so as not to infect everyone else. I really couldn't give two craps about CU one way or another as they no longer have any effect positive or negative towards WSU and would rather not have to read thru this garbage.

            Like I said when it happened the one positive of CU leaving was their fans leaving too. To have to lose CU and still listen to them is a lose/lose and I would rather have a lose/win.

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            • Go back to my site? The only reason I came over here is to respond in kind to the obnoxiousness your fine, fine fan base started this morning.

              If you can't take it, don't dish it.

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              • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
                Damn I'd give anything to go to a Final Four.....hell, what would a Sweet 16 look like? I guess I'll never know...........
                Bye.

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                • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
                  We at sCUm are excited about the future, and rightfully so. Let's be truthful here: laugh all you want, you'd still give a testicle to be out of the Valley. Our ceiling has been removed, and nothing that is stated on this board has any impact going forward. So please, get your fill now, because as much as you're gleefully reporting that we're setting ourselves up for a fall, you are unknowningly doing the same.
                  What ceiling? We just came within scrotum hair of playing in the national championship game, and forced the eventual champion to gut out a win in what they considered to be their roughest matchup of the tournament. We are a proud, historically relevant program with 5 S16's, 4 E8's, and 2 F4's. There's no ceiling here, just large chunks of missed opportunities over the years.

                  Feel free to define CU's ceiling, as historically that's VERY easy to quantify.

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                  • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
                    Our ceiling has been removed.
                    What was your perceived ceiling.

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                    • The easiest way to answer that question is with a question.

                      If there is no ceiling attributed to Valley teams, why 55 pages about how imperative it is to get out?

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                      • Enjoy Dougie's senior year (and Gibbs' sixth year and Wragge's tenth year)...because unless Wookie has a love child that we all don't know about, there isn't another All-American walking through your door next summer. Meanwhile, at WSU, many of the key figures of last year's Final Four run (which by the way requires consecutive NCAA wins, which sCUm knows nothing about) are back not only for this season...but several will be around for the following season...and more for the season after that. HCGM doesn't win basketball games with guys good at playing suburban HORSE. He does it with athletes.

                        Oh, and congrats! You beat WSU 2 of 3 games this season when you were a preseason Top 20 team and WSU was losing five seniors and was picked fourth in the conference...and some brilliant pundits like Bleacher Report predicted that WSU would have one of the biggest letdowns after the 2011-12 season. Nice job! It took you until the final game of the conference season to clinch a title over a team with seemingly no chance to make waves at the national level. Holy hell....let's put sCUm up with Wooden's UCLA teams as the greatest team in college basketball history.

                        Gonzaga was an easy #1 seed? They only beat a team 3 times by a solid average margin of 12 last year. That team? Saint Mary's...who was basically handing sCUm their backsides for majority of the game. So, if the Zags were weak, it indirectly doesn't say much about sCUm either.

                        Would I love to be out of the Valley? Hell yes. I will give you that. However, if you think the Big Priest puts you on the same level as the bluebloods, guess again. Get ready to become the Evansville of the Big East once you start learning about college athletics politics coming from your conference mates in DC, New York, Phily, and Chicago. I guarantee that they won't be too interested in how things benefit Omaha when it comes to conference matters. Somebody has to be the political conference doormat.

                        So....as we have said many times, get back to us when you have some national pub and can win 2 games in an NCAA Tournament.
                        78-65

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                        • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
                          The easiest way to answer that question is with a question.

                          If there is no ceiling attributed to Valley teams, why 55 pages about how imperative it is to get out?
                          What about a ceiling for WSU baseball, in light of MVC membership. What's that look like exactly?

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                          • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post
                            You have a 55 page thread going about getting out of a conference, and we're the ones hurting? And apparently there's another with five pages about Doug envy, even though we're no longer in the conference? Um, OK.

                            We at sCUm are excited about the future, and rightfully so. Let's be truthful here: laugh all you want, you'd still give a testicle to be out of the Valley. Our ceiling has been removed, and nothing that is stated on this board has any impact going forward. So please, get your fill now, because as much as you're gleefully reporting that we're setting ourselves up for a fall, you are unknowningly doing the same.

                            Lose to Texas and Tennessee and you can kiss a path to the Tourney goodbye, unless you somehow break through in St Louis.
                            You're correct, we'd love to get out of the MVC for a better conference. That's a different issue from your fan base, who has never tasted the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament, thinking you're now too good to play a Final Four team.

                            Furthermore, your ceiling didn't disappear, it just got a little higher. And the false floor you've had with Dougie and Gibby will drop out next year. Enjoy the free-fall, don't forget to deploy your chute. We won't see you at the bottom.

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                            • Originally posted by RandomJaysFan View Post

                              If you can't take it, don't dish it.
                              Read my post, not sure I dished anything on this topic. Please leave

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                              • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
                                You're correct, we'd love to get out of the MVC for a better conference. That's a different issue from your fan base, who has never tasted the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament, thinking you're now too good to play a Final Four team.

                                Furthermore, your ceiling didn't disappear, it just got a little higher. And the false floor you've had with Dougie and Gibby will drop out next year. Enjoy the free-fall, don't forget to deploy your chute. We won't see you at the bottom.
                                Believe it or not I think we have found common ground.

                                We have our situation to work on and you have yours. Also, we'll take our circumstances over your current situation rather than vice versa.

                                Whether or not you think that's smart has no bearing on anything. You're the bird in the hand and we see ourselves as the two in the bush. So right now, we welcome the opportunity to rain on your derision. That's going to piss off a ton of people over here just for me saying it, but it's accurate. And just as you rightly say you won't see us at the bottom, neither will we be expecting to see you at the top. I sure won't be back raining on anyone's parade should you turn out to be wrong, because like you and some of the other Shocker fans, I agree that our 'relationship' is past.

                                And, you can carp about a false floor all you want. In fact I wouldn't expect anything else.

                                And Ta Town, I am leaving, but if you want me to not come back then don't post stuff from our board that causes a half dozen trolls to show up where we live. Talk to those who posted it, and those who started it all.

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