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  • Originally posted by mjbaker84 View Post
    so why no Cle alley op on that highlight?
    seems a little bias
    Anderson's dunk was great, but Cle's also deserved to be on this highlight reel. I know I am somewhat biased, but I thought his dunk was better than a few of them that were included. Does seem a little biased to me.

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    • Originally posted by ShockRef View Post
      The depth of ignorance in this post is actually immeasurable.
      Your act is about as fresh as a Foghat concert. Why don't you go fap to Graham Hatch pictures?
      Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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      • Figures...

        Originally posted by BOBB View Post
        Your act is about as fresh as a Foghat concert. Why don't you go fap to Graham Hatch pictures?
        ...it would take one of my posts to bring you out from under your rock. Either that or you finally got some PC time at the Reno jailhouse.


        Look Jethro, I provide a free public service on SN to TRY and I emphasize TRY, to educate those in need of an understanding into the world of officiating.

        Based on the content of most posts, I am not doing a very good job.

        But I keep trying, and once again, have never charged a dime to SN for my services.


        Besides, who the hell are you to diss Lonesome Dave and the boys?

        Just because they never passed along any back stage concert passes to you back in '78 is no reason to rip on them.


        That is all.
        Above all, make the right call.

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        • Originally posted by ShockRef View Post
          ...it would take one of my posts to bring you out from under your rock. Either that or you finally got some PC time at the Reno jailhouse.


          Look Jethro, I provide a free public service on SN to TRY and I emphasize TRY, to educate those in need of an understanding into the world of officiating.

          Based on the content of most posts, I am not doing a very good job.

          But I keep trying, and once again, have never charged a dime to SN for my services.


          Besides, who the hell are you to diss Lonesome Dave and the boys?

          Just because they never passed along any back stage concert passes to you back in '78 is no reason to rip on them.


          That is all.
          Since when has posting on a message board been a public service? Is that something I can get a tax break on?
          The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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          • Shock Ref, do you not acknowledge the difference in officiation b/c a typical MVC game and Saturday's game vs Detroit.

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            • Originally posted by shox1989 View Post
              Anderson's dunk was great, but Cle's also deserved to be on this highlight reel. I know I am somewhat biased, but I thought his dunk was better than a few of them that were included. Does seem a little biased to me.
              Exactly what I was thinking

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              • Originally posted by ABC View Post
                Shock Ref, do you not acknowledge the difference in officiation b/c a typical MVC game and Saturday's game vs Detroit.
                I loved the way it was called, but a lot of that goes to the style the other team played as well.
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                • I have to concur with ABC that the officiating was different. I know there is no such things as "Valley" or "Big XII-2" refs, as officials work multiple leagues. But do conferences ask for particular emphasis on calling things tighter or looser? Or is that more of a geographical difference? Saturday's refs really let them play and bang around a lot more than the guys we usually see here.
                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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                  • ShockRef was trying to point out there is no such thing as a "Valley ref". That is correct, but there is definitely something that is "Valley officiating". To be technically accurate, the original post that caused the wadded panties would have said some like.
                    It sure was nice to watch a game without Valley officiating points of emphasis and grading of officials.
                    I do believe it is the Valley office, and not the referees, that creates a "Valley ref". Between points of emphasis and grading, the league office can make it very clear to officials how the games are to be called.
                    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                    • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                      I loved the way it was called, but a lot of that goes to the style the other team played as well.
                      There was a very physical scrum in the first half that went uncalled from a foul stand point. That would have never happened with Valley refs, and had nothing to do with style IMO.

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                      • Points of emphasis play a part to be sure. And it wouldn't surprise me if the Valley prefers to have things played a little slower. Lets face it, many of the teams in the conference aren't the most athletically gifted and aren't capable of playing fast. Being that it's a grind it out style, you're going to have more fouls called and it may be because the Valley office wants it that way, but at the same time, the style of the two teams on the court can often dictate how the game will be called as well.

                        The MVC has some top notch officials no matter what the fans think. Are there some that aren't as good? Sure. Do some have bad nights? Absolutely. But if we had "Valley refs" in the game against Detroit, I think it would have been called in a similar way.
                        Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                        RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                        Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                        ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                        Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                        Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                        • Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                          There was a very physical scrum in the first half that went uncalled from a foul stand point. That would have never happened with Valley refs, and had nothing to do with style IMO.
                          Personally, I disagree.
                          Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                          RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                          Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                          ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                          Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                          Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                          • I think you have the ESPN and "tournament" factor that played into how the game was called. League games are more than likely going to be called differently than a one-game Bracket Busters format.
                            "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
                            -John Wooden

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                            • I wish we would get out quickly on defensive rebounds, and even makes like we did against Detroit. I know Valley teams get back quick, but i bet we could get a few easy buckets a time or 2 per game.
                              "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                              • BINGO!

                                Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                                I loved the way it was called, but a lot of that goes to the style the other team played as well.
                                Have you seen any Valley team that played the type of style and tempo as Detroit?

                                How about the lack of defense?
                                When was the last time you saw uncontested 50' passes by a Valley PG zip in under the basket for bunnies?
                                When was the last time you saw a Valley team constantly get beat back down the floor for lay ups??


                                Remember this - ALL NCAA officials, regardless of leagues they work are essentially working for one guy - John Adams.
                                He is numero uno and The Guy when it comes to Tournament selections.

                                That gents, is what every official at this level aspires to work.

                                You can be assured he grades every eligible official, working in every league, when it comes time to hand out the coveted assignments.
                                I can also assure you he doesn't have a different grading system when it comes to various officials.


                                Trust SR
                                Above all, make the right call.

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