Bluejays @ Shockers Game Thread

[SHOXAAC]

How about a shout out to the Shocker softball team who filled in for the Cheer squard who were in Orlando, FL at the UCA National Championships.

The Softball team did double duty as they filled in at both the men's game and the women's game and they brought a lot of energy to the floor in both cases. If nothing else there were more souvenir balls making it to the upper bowl then normal.

Would love to see Coach KB and the Lady Shocks softball team start to show some progress this year.

Thanks Ladies.
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Ditto...I have been in section 124, row 25 for 12 years. I caught a mini ball because for the first time someone had the arm to chuck it up that far. Nice going ladies...have a great year.

[Kung Wu]

Why did UNI go along with it? He made a commitment there and they had even less reason to let him out of it than a Big XII school would have. I would think getting a waiver for the year would be a lot easier if the school you were at just fired your dad than leaving to go play for your dad, especially when there wasn't any changes at the school you committed to.

This is anachronous. You are implying that Doug didn't intend to go to Northern Iowa, and he certainly did. He had no expectation of needing to ask for a release. If he had attended Iowa State on the other hand, it was very likely he would have eventually needed to do just that. Iowa State hadn't been to an NCAA tourney since 2005 and they were sucking badly in 2009 -- the situation for Greg wasn't dire, but wasn't great.

I know the popular opinion around here is that Greg slighted his own son somehow, but he protected him more than anything -- if you just look at it with an unbiased lens.

The order of events were:

1) Greg hires on at Iowa State for 2006/2007 season.
2) Greg has 3 bad years. He's not in a dire situation, but it's not a good one either.
3) Nov 2009 - Doug signs an NLI with Northern Iowa -- he either signs soon or risks losing a scholarship at a good university. He honestly intends to go to Northern Iowa. He could go to Iowa State, but why would his dad want that? They suck and his coaching position is iffy. Northern Iowa are conference champs, tournament champs, and coming off an NCAA run.
4) Greg completes 4th year 2009/2010 at Iowa State.
5) April 2010 - Altman resigns.

[rrshock]

This is anachronous. You are implying that Doug didn't intend to go to Northern Iowa, and he certainly did. He had no expectation of needing to ask for a release. If he had attended Iowa State on the other hand, it was very likely he would have eventually needed to do just that. Iowa State hadn't been to an NCAA tourney since 2005 and they were sucking badly in 2009 -- the situation for Greg wasn't dire, but wasn't great.

I know the popular opinion around here is that Greg slighted his own son somehow, but he protected him more than anything -- if you just look at it with an unbiased lens.

The order of events were:

1) Greg hires on at Iowa State for 2006/2007 season.
2) Greg has 3 bad years. He's not in a dire situation, but it's not a good one either.
3) Nov 2009 - Doug signs an NLI with Northern Iowa -- he either signs soon or risks losing a scholarship at a good university. He honestly intends to go to Northern Iowa. He could go to Iowa State, but why would his dad want that? They suck and his coaching position is iffy. Northern Iowa are conference champs, tournament champs, and coming off an NCAA run.
4) Greg completes 4th year 2009/2010 at Iowa State.
5) April 2010 - Altman resigns.

I agree KungWu. He was protecting his son. Greg left UNI on a good note and he knew that UNI would be a good place for his son. I'm sure if the whole Creighton thing had happened a year sooner, things would have been completely different for everyone.

[kcshocker11]

The arena looked great,the crowd was stunning, the team played hard and hats off to the officials for not trying to make the game about them. A great win Shocks!

[ShockerFever]

I hated the "Daddy's Boy" thing. The kid could be playing in the Big 10 or the Big 12 and he chose to come play with his Dad. Maybe a lot of you didn't have a special relationship with your dads or with your sons, but trying to make fun of someone who does is totally f-ing classless.

Seriously?

It was a freaking chant. BFD.

[ShockerFever]

"Not real happy" is a bit of an understatement. Go read their board. Not only are they in a perpetual 3 year meltdown, Doug's betrayal cost them at minimum 3 total Valley Championships (reg & post) and $5-10 million.

LMAO.

[tropicalshox]

I hated the "Daddy's Boy" thing. The kid could be playing in the Big 10 or the Big 12 and he chose to come play with his Dad. Maybe a lot of you didn't have a special relationship with your dads or with your sons, but trying to make fun of someone who does is totally f-ing classless.

No, he could be playing at UNI.

[ShockerFever]

Ditto...I have been in section 124, row 25 for 12 years. I caught a mini ball because for the first time someone had the arm to chuck it up that far. Nice going ladies...have a great year.

No kidding. Considering the normal cheer squad throws their mini balls into the same 5 or 6 sections every game, and most of the time below halfway up. You can tell it was somebody different this time around, as 2 miniballs came within 5 feet of me. I haven't seen a miniball in our section in about 4 years.

[rrshock]

No kidding. Considering the normal cheer squad throws their mini balls into the same 5 or 6 sections every game, and most of the time below halfway up. You can tell it was somebody different this time around, as 2 miniballs came within 5 feet of me. I haven't seen a miniball in our section in about 4 years.

My guess is they are instructed to throw them in the same areas all the time. It has to do with donors.

[ShockerFever]

My guess is they are instructed to throw them in the same areas all the time. It has to do with donors.

That's fine. But do big time donors really care about receiving 14 mini balls a year?

[rrshock]

That's fine. But do big time donors really care about receiving 14 mini balls a year?

Not when they have already been given a box of stuff from the AD and the basketball team.

That is just my guess. Who knows but the idiots throwing out the balls?

[1972Shocker]

My guess is they are instructed to throw them in the same areas all the time. It has to do with donors.

If a mini-basketball is important to any of the big donors I can assure you they don't have to battle the rest of a crowd to get one. I doubt Charles Koch is losing any sleep over whether he gets a mini-ball or not.

Now if getting a mini-ball is a real big deal to anyone you should come to the women's games. Your chances are about 20 times better of snagging one of those trophies.

I have nabbed a few at the women's games although I usually search out a kid attending the game to give the ball to. Need to build the Shocker fan base of the future you know. Plus the smile and look on a kid's face when you give them a ball is priceless.

[tropicalshox]

Shocker locker room after the game:

http://www.kwch.com/sports/kwch-gm-sports-wichita-state-back-in-polls-at-20-20130121,0,2801747.story

[Kung Wu]

[Ricardo del Rio]

Instead of placing black tee shirts on each seat, maybe black mini-balls would have been better.

If the Shockers had a 20 point lead, then the fans could have expressed their displeasure at a ref's call by throwing the balls on the court.

Now that would be a big time hoot.

I remember when the band use to play "Three Blind Mice" at games to express displeasure with the refs. It was pretty common once upon a time, long, long ago. The refs started calling technical fouls on the band, so the song went away.

Also I remember when Wu would put on a blindfold or dark glasses and carry a cane. When the crowd was unhappy with a ref's call, Wu would wander onto the court, during a break in action. He would walk in an uncertain path and all the while with one arm out stretched, he would tap his cane on the floor. Alas, the powers put a stop to it.

I miss those days. It was fun. Sometimes, I think our student section lacks creativity.