Poll Watch, 2012-13 Edition

[Capitol Shock II]

Look at Indiana's schedule...it's an absolute joke! Their win / loss record does nothing to justify their current ranking as with most BCS top 20 basketball teams. Gonzaga earns every spot they are ranked. Indiana...no.

[shox1989]

Ohio State is another one. They are 11-3 and they have lost to everyone good they have played.

[jocoshock]

If Indiana, Ohio State, and Kentucky are as bad and undeserving as everyone says, then they will get spanked in conference and exposed. And if that is still not enough to drop them out, they will be exposed in the NCAA tourney. VCU and Wichita State have and always will have a larger burden of proof to bear. That's why just winning the damn games if more important than the polls... RPI and SoS is much more important for the non-BCS teams than the polls.

You know they will be in the tourney (almost) no matter what because of revenue and ratings.... so why complain... it's the same for NCAA violations... they sneeze, the little guys catch the cold...

[MadaboutWu]

Not that I think VCU should be ranked ahead of us, but out of self-interest we want VCU to be ranked. The higher they go the better our win.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

VCU should have been in the polls awhile ago. They deserve their ranking much more than some of the other teams we've mentioned here (cough...Kentucky...cough). I'm not surprised at all that we're not in the coaches poll. I can't see us not being included next week, though, if we take care of business this week.

[jocoshock]

Kirk Seminoff @kseminoff
#shockers No. 23 in this week's AP poll. First time WSU-KU-KSU in poll same week since 1964-65 preseason poll (H/T @joshwood)

[rrshock]

Kentucky's schedule is a joke. Here is a list of their wins:

Northwood
Transylvania
Maryland (good job Turge)
Lafayette
Morehead State
LIU Brooklyn
Samford
Portland
Marshall
Eastern Michigan

Their losses are to the best teams they've played: Notre Dame, Baylor, Duke, Louisville.

How does this schedule/results deserve a ranking?

SEC. That's all that matters in this.

[Dan]

I have no problem ranking UK if they roll through the SEC. Up to this point, with that schedule and 4 losses, they shouldn't be sniffing the Top 25.

[shox1989]

VCU should have been in the polls awhile ago. They deserve their ranking much more than some of the other teams we've mentioned here (cough...Kentucky...cough). I'm not surprised at all that we're not in the coaches poll. I can't see us not being included next week, though, if we take care of business this week.

I love seeing VCU ranked. You are right they along with WSU should have already been ranked. It was just interesting that they jumped over us and made such a big leap after they had a pretty weak win.

[all valley]

Both WSU and CU ranked again. Great stuff.

[Aargh]

If UK had played the exact schedule that WSU has played with the exact same results (only loss was at Tennessee), they'd be top-10.

VCU is ahead of us because of what they've done post-season the last couple of years.

With the polls, it's not totally about what you've done this year.

[DoubleJayAlum]

SEC. That's all that matters in this.

It shouldn't this year. Outside of Missouri, the SEC is pretty mediocre.

[jocoshock]

From Andy Katz...

• Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall may be doing his best coaching job ever in leading the injury-riddled Shockers to an undefeated start. They are a big threat to the Bluejays in the Valley.

• The more you watch VCU, the more it's easier to believe that these Rams could be more dangerous than the team that went to the Final Four two seasons ago. This team forces turnovers and makes shots, and it may be at an easier clip at times.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8821214/quick-thoughts-nation-monday-morning-musings-college-basketball

[ShockerFever]

Nice to see a boost into the AP poll. Take care of business this week and two ranked Valley teams will be going at it since God knows when..

[ShockerFever]

I don't know where to put this but I guess here is as good as anywhere. It almost deserves its own thread.

Myron Metcalf is a moron. I've followed his bloggy stuff for a couple years and he doesn't know much. I have no clue why he landed at ESPN and why he gets a spot to write for them. Here's a fantastic gem today in his chat session:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46645

Cory (Wichita)


Speaking of VCU, you have them ranked #17 this week, but a certain 14-1 team that beat them at their place, once again, gets absolutely no mention. Why?
Myron Medcalf (2:26 PM)


They're in the conversation. I can't tell you how often I wish I had 30 slots. You always miss someone. ... But I really look at the power rankings as power rankings. Who are the best teams right now? And Carl Hall's absence has clearly hurt a Wichita State team that will need him to compete for the MVC title, IMO.